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    Earlier this week I posted some questions about what tires I should get. I decided on the yoko 165 70 R12s. Now I need help making the decision of whether I should forget buying new tires and just upgrade to 13'' wheels. I was doing some work in my garage and I noticed some wheels from my long-time moved away brother. I saw that they had the 4 bolt pattern and that they were 13 inch wheels. I immediately called my brother. They were from his old audi 4000s!!(which is on the wheel list). So should I stay with the 12 inch wheels and get new tires or put on the 13 inch wheels which have practically brand new snow tires on them? and if I go with the 13" wheels is anyone interested in my old 12" ones?

  • #2
    I went to 13's and I'm never looking back Much easier to find tires locally (for me anyway).
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    • #3
      I'd go with the 13s in a hearbeat. Heck, I'm even thinking of upgrading to 15s if I can.
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      • #4
        Those Audi wheels may be 4 X 100mm. The centerbore will be a different size. You'll probably need ball seat lugbolts. Check before you commit. Then double check before you do it.

        Karl
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        • #5
          I'd say give it a try and see what happens!
          1992 white L, Bp, American racing 13's, stock trans.
          1991 White L, BP/F5MR, protege header, full aspire swap with gr2's, seats, and sway bar, 15" konig's, short throw, escort console.
          1991 blue L, 5 speed.
          1988 red L-plus-all stock.

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          • #6
            As everyone else has said, Try putting them on first because they cold be 4x100 or something else. If they do work I'd get some new tires for it and save those winter tires for the winter, which will be very nice to have.

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            • #7
              I would look around and see if you can find some 15's cheap also. It will improve handling, braking, and I feel that it makes bumps and traintracks alot smoother also! It's going to be a little bit difficult to find some wheels that you like with the 4x114 bolt pattern and at a decent price, but it's worth a try!
              1992 white L, Bp, American racing 13's, stock trans.
              1991 White L, BP/F5MR, protege header, full aspire swap with gr2's, seats, and sway bar, 15" konig's, short throw, escort console.
              1991 blue L, 5 speed.
              1988 red L-plus-all stock.

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              • #8
                Forget 12s. If the Audi wheels are 4x100, upgrade to Aspire brakes, which you should do anyway. Even if they're 4x114.3, putting heavier wheels/tires on stock Festy brakes will increase stopping distances. The most I'd put on a stock Festy brake is 13" Metro wheels with 155/80 tires, to keep the rolling weight and inertia down.
                Last edited by TominMO; 06-16-2011, 06:46 AM.
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                09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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                • #9
                  ^good point, I did not take this into consideration. And I'm gonna have a little talk with ballman this weekend about the aspire Swap!
                  1992 white L, Bp, American racing 13's, stock trans.
                  1991 White L, BP/F5MR, protege header, full aspire swap with gr2's, seats, and sway bar, 15" konig's, short throw, escort console.
                  1991 blue L, 5 speed.
                  1988 red L-plus-all stock.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TominMO View Post
                    Forget 12s. If the Audi wheels are 4x100, upgrade to Aspire brakes, which you should do anyway. Even if they're 4x114.3, putting heavier wheels/tires on stock Festy brakes will increase stopping distances. The most I'd put on a stock Festy brake is 13" Metro wheels with 155/80 tires, to keep the rolling weight and inertia down.
                    I think you've mentioned the aspire brake upgrade before. Would someone on the forum have some that I could buy from them or would I need to go to a junk yard to find them?

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                    • #11
                      We'll talk more Sunday but in my opinion, the best thing to do is to try and find an aspire pretty cheap and buy it. That way you can get all the pieces to the swap and recoup some of your investment by selling the motor/ trans, interior, and other misc. Pieces. I went this route and it worked out great! I basically got paid to upgrade my Festy !
                      1992 white L, Bp, American racing 13's, stock trans.
                      1991 White L, BP/F5MR, protege header, full aspire swap with gr2's, seats, and sway bar, 15" konig's, short throw, escort console.
                      1991 blue L, 5 speed.
                      1988 red L-plus-all stock.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 91mcnasty View Post
                        We'll talk more Sunday but in my opinion, the best thing to do is to try and find an aspire pretty cheap and buy it. That way you can get all the pieces to the swap and recoup some of your investment by selling the motor/ trans, interior, and other misc. Pieces. I went this route and it worked out great! I basically got paid to upgrade my Festy !
                        That's the way to do it!
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                        Nancy- 1.8L BP, aspire swap, g-trans
                        The Adventures of Nancy! Build Thread
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                        My Musica! Click me!

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                        • #13
                          well just got back from the tire place. wheels don't fit. they are 4x100. Guess i'll be headed to the junk yards soon. the aspire upgrade sounds good. I'm anxious to hear more.
                          Last edited by hrbballman; 06-16-2011, 08:42 AM.

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                          • #14
                            It just happens to be I have a full aspire brake swap and 15" alloys that fit great. Available for purchase...
                            Last edited by gauge_half_inch; 06-16-2011, 10:06 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hrbballman View Post
                              I think you've mentioned the aspire brake upgrade before. Would someone on the forum have some that I could buy from them or would I need to go to a junk yard to find them?
                              Yeah, but it's actually kinda hypocritical of me to urge other people to do this when I haven't done so, and won't on this Festiva. I'm using the stock Festy rear beam and Capri XR2 front knuckles, which works out great. I also use an Aspire sway bar and did the 5/8" threaded-bar addition to the Festy rear beam.

                              But Aspires are so much more common and do a fine job, esp. if you also swap the reservoir. And as a bonus you get more choices in wheels.
                              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                              You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                              Disaster preparedness

                              Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                              Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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