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    After installing the threaded rod in my reae suspension last week 'Tiva seems to have a little more oversteer than it did. Has anyone else found this to be?
    If it don't fit, use a bigger hammer!


    '93 Green L - ' Tiva

  • #2
    I think the threaded rod was made to be used in junction with the aspire sway bar upgrade? You've stiffened the rear but not the front. If that makes any sense. Less play in the suspension.
    1988 Ford Festiva "Sonic" BPT g25mr MS2 standalone ecu, FOTY '11, Best Beater FMV, Fan Favorite FMVI

    1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.slow

    1996 Ford F-150

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    • #3
      mike covered what i was gunna say
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      • #4
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        The stiffer rear beam now transfers more weight to the outside front wheel during cornering. You'll need stiffer springs up front or an Aspire sway bar. You might try just installing Urethane bushings on the stock sway bar. It might be enough to give it more balance.
        Brian

        93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
        04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
        62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

        1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
        Not enough time or money for any of them

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        • #5
          Okay, I'd like to get a good set of urethane bushngs for the front, some ,not all of the bushings are dry & cracked. I'd love an Aspire front sway & a strut bar. No Aspires or Festys in the local JYs in quite awhile. The oversteers not bad, but I can tell. Have to be careful so it doesn't get away from me. There is a circle near me and I hit it pretty hard , it was FUN!!!
          If it don't fit, use a bigger hammer!


          '93 Green L - ' Tiva

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          • #6
            Kissimmee Has 2 aspire's at UPAP
            -M3NTAL MARK! Woo!!

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            • #7
              I have a aspire sway bar in my garage, I paid $30 from the jy but I'm not going to use it if you want it I can bring it to the meet.
              1988 Ford Festiva "Sonic" BPT g25mr MS2 standalone ecu, FOTY '11, Best Beater FMV, Fan Favorite FMVI

              1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.slow

              1996 Ford F-150

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              • #8
                Sounds great! Who sells urathene bushins? Any McParts?
                If it don't fit, use a bigger hammer!


                '93 Green L - ' Tiva

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                • #9
                  You can try just the swaybar-to-LCA bushings first and see how much they help. You can go to O'Reileys or wherever and get a set of the blue MOOG "problem solver" bushings. They are not exactly Urethane, but they are much firmer than the factory ones. They're pretty cheap & easy to install, but you might have to get it re-aligned after you install them...depending on how shot the original ones are. I believe you'll also be able to re-use them if/when you switch to an Aspire bar as well. The swaybar-to-body bushings will have to be custom made from universal ones....there are may "how to" threads on here about them.

                  If it's not too severe, I bet just the MOOG bushings will make a big difference.
                  Brian

                  93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
                  04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
                  62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

                  1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
                  Not enough time or money for any of them

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                  • #10
                    I agree to try just the "Blue Moogs" first. Old original bushings really deteriorate and can loosen things up way too much.

                    Also check the steel under where the bushings mount. I've seen a lot of corrosion there which gnaws away the steel. That could potentially be an issue.

                    Karl
                    '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
                    '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
                    '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
                    '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
                    '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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                    • #11
                      I also have an aspire sway bar that will be available at the meet.
                      -Greg
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