Fastorbust's 1992 Ford Festiva Turbo Build

[aspireguy95]

i wouldnt use bosch plugs on a turbo car. get ngks

[ford4life]

of course the 130hp thing was a joke but could be realistic if we did a built engine, i didn't want to do the cam cause i don't wanna mess with the timing my self, i think honestly since this is a little bit of a bigger garret turbo i think 100hp is a realistic goal, in the end this will be a quick setup, one of my pet pevs with this setup is defiantly the inter cooler we have now id rather free up some space in the engine bay and make it a more modern style in the front instead of right in front of the turbo, at this point we have alot more to worry about then our hp gains, the oil pan is being difficult and we still need to run all oil and coolent lines

[ford4life]

I'm betting on bust! lol.

A few things to think about, I'm no expert so maybe you know everything about these builds... but just the same:
I'm not sure what you mean by 'performance cam', but if its a performance NA cam its almost certainly going to be worse than a stock cam when it sees boost. Valve lift/duration is usually increased (hence performance gains) which increases valve over-lap... bad thing under boost!
Next, you will need to take out base timing... although with only 5psi you might get away with not taking too much out. Its not a very nice way of boosting a car, but when your only looking for small gains no biggie.
Fuel management? Bigger injectors, FMU, ?? Also, why the B6 ECU? Unless you've compared the ignition/fuel maps and have found them to pull out more timing on the top end (don't think so) or hold the injectors open longer (once again, don't think so, but maybe) then its pointless.
finally (at least this is as much as I feel like typing for now); what gives you the 120hp goal?? thats twice stock... I'd like to see the computations for that. Its certainly possible... but not on that setup. The stock festy fuel pump has a hard time keeping up with an NA BP (around 120hp), so i hope you've got an upgrade for that. 5psi, even when that turbo does finally spool up there, is probably going to net you max 80-90, if you get lucky on the A/F ratios and ignition timing.

Just some thoughts!

thank for the insight, alot of this makes more sense now, and were certainly no professionals, at least im not, now nerd on the other hand is a scientist, i think this is more of a trial and error type of build.

[eurotiva]

I'd worry about the oil leaks first.

I got close to 100hp(?) with my b3 turbo. It ran a 15.82 @ 84 mph. I know Tom's car is 111hp (on a dyno) and ran 15.7 @ 88 mph.

These numbers are where I'm making an educated guess from.

[Nerd Racing]

thank for the insight, alot of this makes more sense now, and were certainly no professionals, at least im not, now nerd on the other hand is a scientist, i think this is more of a trial and error type of build.

lol no not a scientist... I don't know much about boost... i know how to put bigger engines in and wire them up, but boost has not been on my menu YET!

[ford4life]

lol no not a scientist... I don't know much about boost... i know how to put bigger engines in and wire them up, but boost has not been on my menu YET!

boost is easy you just have to know what to put with it, i really don't think the cam is going to be a good ideal, i perfer we leave the engine stock, when this engine goes then you can help us swap a b6t in lol, we still need your helping hand, we can't get crap done with 2 people it just doesn't work out right...

[Nerd Racing]

works better than just one! lol. yeah I'll be there, its at Aaron's place right?

[ford4life]

works better than just one! lol. yeah I'll be there, its at Aaron's place right?

yea its at his place, i bet we could have this thing done on friday, minus a few dumb things

[iceracerdude]

i wouldnt use bosch plugs on a turbo car. get ngks

+1

That t3 is prolly gonna be way too big for that engine. I realize you want to work with what was provided you, but for future reference, you can get a ready made T-3 to T-25 flange adapter if you want to try and get in smaller turbo's sweet spot a little better.

[ford4life]

+1

That t3 is prolly gonna be way too big for that engine. I realize you want to work with what was provided you, but for future reference, you can get a ready made T-3 to T-25 flange adapter if you want to try and get in smaller turbo's sweet spot a little better.

when the engine goes boom then we will go bigger and bolt that on to bigger :thumbup:

[FastOrBust]

yea the boschs were also a bad idea i forgot that i had to gap the plugs differently ill see if i can get some ngks tomorrow

[Aaronbrook37]

+1

That t3 is prolly gonna be way too big for that engine. I realize you want to work with what was provided you, but for future reference, you can get a ready made T-3 to T-25 flange adapter if you want to try and get in smaller turbo's sweet spot a little better.

when the engine goes boom then we will go bigger and bolt that on to bigger :thumbup:

Yes a T-3 is probably too big, unless it's 35-45 trim, in which case it'll be perfect!

[iceracerdude]

yea the boschs were also a bad idea i forgot that i had to gap the plugs differently ill see if i can get some ngks tomorrow

You don't gap platinum plugs, you buy them according to the gap you need.

when the engine goes boom then we will go bigger and bolt that on to bigger :thumbup:

That's the problem, you might have to pack a lunch while you wait for it to spool enough to go boom!

[ford4life]

yea the boschs were also a bad idea i forgot that i had to gap the plugs differently ill see if i can get some ngks tomorrow

we didn't gap them they were pre gaped i think we will be fine with the setup this is all trial and error...

[skeeters_keeper]

That's the problem, you might have to pack a lunch while you wait for it to spool enough to go boom!

Yea, thats what I was getting at in the end of my first post I have a T3, a T25, and a TD05 (the latter two aren't in real good shape) and was considering boosting my NA B6, and decided the T3 was too large for that. Its deff way too big for tiny little B3. A T25 would have been a pretty good choice though. The T3, on the other hand, should work pretty well with my BP...


Some folks like to learn by trial and error, others by reading and research. As they say: "a stupid person is someone who doesn't learn from their mistakes. a smart person is someone who does learn from their mistakes. a wise person is someone who learns from other people's mistakes."

May i suggest doing a bit of reading here: http://junkyardturbos.com/