Bp 1/4 mile time

[festivaWES]

i ran my bp aspire with f series in the 1/8 i ran 10.0 i dont know what it would run in a 1/4

15.6 it may not be 100% accurate V

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[Slyder]

having the hole car makes the swap a lot easier. then you can use a lot of the plugs for the wiring and also the shifter and ecu and just lots of stuff.

Thats exactly what i was thinking. plus i can part out the rest of the car and probably break even.

[SimonTuffGuy]

My time was running 15's (195/45 Toyo Proxies) with FMS springs on Bilstein fronts/KYB Super rears and a stage 4 clutch.

[Jimmy812]

also traction is a big issue. wheel hop mostly. when i try to even do a burn out it hops like crazy and will not sit still and smoke the tires. ill post a vid of the burnout attempts next week.

Does everyone have that problem?

Getting rid of the sway-bar-acts-as-the-tension-rod suspension concept would go a log way towards remedying that wheelhop problem.

Wheelhop on FWDs is mostly caused by the wheel actually moving front to back as the tires try to get the car moving and goes through a cycle of grabbing and slipping.

The only thing on a Festiva to keep that cycle of vibration from happening is the sway bar bushing at the control arm and the pillowblock bushings that the swaybar pivots on at the front of the car. The Festiva suspension was just not designed with the idea of planting power in mind. Putting power down was a priority for the engineers somewhere after being cheap and having a decent ride. It just wasn't a priority.

Making A-arms that get rid of all those bushings would be fairly easy, but you'd probably lose the sway bar.

Is that a trade off people who drag race Festivas would make to get better traction? Trading handling for straight line traction?

[neanderpaul]

Thats exactly what i was thinking. plus i can part out the rest of the car and probably break even.

That's what I did. I broke even. I still have some stuff to sell too.

[SimonTuffGuy]

Hah... I have a problem with splitting transmissions in half when I try to burn out... :-P

[Slyder]

My time was running 15's (195/45 Toyo Proxies) with FMS springs on Bilstein fronts/KYB Super rears and a stage 4 clutch.

It appears that Ive been a little optimistic about its potential. Well if i get a Bp well see what i can do.

[Slyder]

Does everyone have that problem?

Getting rid of the sway-bar-acts-as-the-tension-rod suspension concept would go a log way towards remedying that wheelhop problem.

Wheelhop on FWDs is mostly caused by the wheel actually moving front to back as the tires try to get the car moving and goes through a cycle of grabbing and slipping.

The only thing on a Festiva to keep that cycle of vibration from happening is the sway bar bushing at the control arm and the pillowblock bushings that the swaybar pivots on at the front of the car. The Festiva suspension was just not designed with the idea of planting power in mind. Putting power down was a priority for the engineers somewhere after being cheap and having a decent ride. It just wasn't a priority.

Making A-arms that get rid of all those bushings would be fairly easy, but you'd probably lose the sway bar.

Is that a trade off people who drag race Festivas would make to get better traction? Trading handling for straight line traction?

I didnt know that. thanks for the info I was just planning on following Quaddawgs write up except change the spring rate to 175 front 150 rear in a hope to reduce wheel hop.

[neanderpaul]

Switchhit got a 12.1 with a BP-T

[Slyder]

That's what I did. I broke even. I still have some stuff to sell too.

Very nice, I figure if all else fails i can just sell it to a scrap yard for 100 or so.

[Slyder]

^^REALLY... random question. could i take the turbo from a car that comes stock with a turbo ((example) 1986 lebaron) and put that onto a festiva?

SimonTuffGuy: Dang that sucks, are you going to be putting the G25mr tranny in this summer when you drag?

I appologize for being such a "post whore"

[FestYboy]

you have a ways to go before being tagged as a "post whore"

[ejp2fast]

Hah... I have a problem with splitting transmissions in half when I try to burn out... :-P

ouch simon!!

[Jimmy812]

I didnt know that. thanks for the info I was just planning on following Quaddawgs write up except change the spring rate to 175 front 150 rear in a hope to reduce wheel hop.

Stiffer springs will definitely help, because once the wheels start jerking around, there is a vertical movement too so anything you can do to control that will help, but controlling the jerking in the front-rear direction in the first place is the key.

If you made A arms and as a result had to get rid of your sway bar, stiffer springs would also help control the body roll.

A combination of the two is probably the best solution.

I've been planning to build some front A arms for the Festiva. I'll post up pics when I do, but it will be a while before I'll have an engine swap that will test to see if A arms really do help put the power down better.

From my experience with traction bars on other FWD cars, I suspect that switching to proper A arms will be the innovation that really help Festivas start turning much better times.

A proper limited slip would be really nice too, but that might be asking for too much.

[Nerd Racing]

A proper limited slip would be really nice too, but that might be asking for too much.

A group buy just went down on a proper g-series LSD for the mazda g-series 5 speeds over at clubprotege.com. Its a helical type that is about half the price of a quaife.