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  • SMART car???

    I passed a car hauler on HWY 169 here in Tulsa and it had, get this, 14 SMART cars on it. I drove beside the hauler for some time just to get the count right. I had to count them 3 times. He had them crammed to within an inch of one another but he got them all on.

    I talked to a SMART car owner a couple weeks ago and asked him what he was getting out of his and he was proud to say he gets 37 in town. 37?? I didn't say anything to him but the only thing I could think of was all the people on a list waiting for their chance to pay for a Mercedes SMART CAR. Yeah, they're cute and you can haul more on a transporter for the same money but shouldn't those tiny things get more like 45 or 50.

    We can haul 4 folks in ours, 2 in theirs. I didn't really do well in economics in school but seems to me that means our car hauls a person for less than half what that SMART car can.
    I think the Festiva is the SMARTer car.
    1992 Flamestiva with matching Festrailer
    1994 Mercury Capri XR2 turbo
    1992 Aerostar "Hot Wheels" custom
    FoMoCo toy car collector for 20 years

  • #2
    Just look at my profile picture...I can't even fit in one.
    89' Maroon and black Festiva LX with a sunroof. :alien:

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    • #3
      My parents Smart car got 70-80 MPG :lol: but it was the diesel version

      1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
      1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
      2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

      1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

      If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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      • #4
        I drove one at the Smart dealer...in the parking lot. Strange manual/automatic transmission that shifts with a jerk. Great visibility and seemed very roomy to me...but no back seat and the engine is a three cylinder mounted under the cargo floor in back of car. Lots of hard materials inside but seemed well built. Hard to believe people are paying 20 Grand for the loaded ones. I wonder what a 1988 Festiva LX would be in today's dollars? Maybe it would seem just as overpriced as the Smart? At least mine still smells like new 16 years later..a 93 L.

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        • #5
          I don't know... everything I've found online says that they're rated at 33 city and 41 highway with around 35-37 being the actual realized number. And you have to pump premium. I've not run less than 40 on any of the tanks I've pumped yet, and they're all town driving. WHY CAN'T/WON'T THE MANUFACTURERS REPRODUCE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE FESTIVA TODAY?? I've said many times that I'll never buy a new car again and until they can produce something that's efficient, inexpensive and easy to work on (no hybrids for this shadetree guy) that'll remain my motto.

          Regardless, Mercedes of Festiva, it's AWESOME to fill up my car here in Tulsa for around $14.50 from bone dry and drive it 430-450 miles. I can again smile at the pump.
          1992 Flamestiva with matching Festrailer
          1994 Mercury Capri XR2 turbo
          1992 Aerostar "Hot Wheels" custom
          FoMoCo toy car collector for 20 years

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tulsacarman View Post
            I don't know... everything I've found online says that they're rated at 33 city and 41 highway with around 35-37 being the actual realized number. And you have to pump premium. I've not run less than 40 on any of the tanks I've pumped yet, and they're all town driving. WHY CAN'T/WON'T THE MANUFACTURERS REPRODUCE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE FESTIVA TODAY?? I've said many times that I'll never buy a new car again and until they can produce something that's efficient, inexpensive and easy to work on (no hybrids for this shadetree guy) that'll remain my motto.

            Regardless, Mercedes of Festiva, it's AWESOME to fill up my car here in Tulsa for around $14.50 from bone dry and drive it 430-450 miles. I can again smile at the pump.
            the NEW smart cars would be the ones that get 33 city 41 highway MPG, my parents was an 06' and did get average of over 70 MPG here's a pic of the one i'm talking about (which wasn't available in the US):


            1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
            1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
            2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

            1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

            If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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            • #7
              it was diesel tho huh? US Gov't doesnt want us to have diesel smart cars cause the oil companys would go broke! hahahahahahahah

              I heard the diesel guys in Europe pushing hi 80's per gallon! That would be worth 20G's thats for sure.....
              Ski

              1986 Ferrari Testarossa
              2002 BMW 745i
              2002 BMW 325i
              1989 BP'd Festi :p

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              • #8
                Damkid's parents were kind enough to bring theirs Ohiostvia and let many of us drive it!
                I liked it!
                But sad to say, the diesel version is not available in the U.S. market!
                And as far as I know, there are no plans to bring it in!
                With a little luck the big three will go under and some company with more vision will take over the U.S. market!
                '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                '92 Aqua parts Car
                '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                Your holy ghost will not save you.
                Your God plutonium will not save you.
                In fact...
                ...You will not be saved!"

                Prince of Darkness -1987

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                • #9
                  Last summer when gas jumped after the hurricane, a co-worker of mine was researching these things. He does construction administration and travels all over NC. $4 gas was killing him. When we found out that they had to have premium, he dropped that idea. Car payments and $4.50 gas just didn't make sense.

                  I heard the new European Fiestas are diesel and get like 65 mpg. Ford doesn't have plans to import them though. I read that the US is "not diesel friendly." huh? What about the diesel VWs? What about all the diesel trucks out there?

                  Guess that's why US auto makers are in such great financial shape! They know what the American public want. ha ha

                  I'll stick with my Festiva.
                  1992 Green GL - "It's not easy being green" - Kermit - RIP killed by a tree
                  1992 Aqua Funtop - Belle
                  Wife of V8Festiva.

                  Madness Committee Member
                  website www.festivamadness.com

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tulsacarman View Post
                    I don't know... everything I've found online says that they're rated at 33 city and 41 highway with around 35-37 being the actual realized number. And you have to pump premium. I've not run less than 40 on any of the tanks I've pumped yet, and they're all town driving. WHY CAN'T/WON'T THE MANUFACTURERS REPRODUCE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE FESTIVA TODAY?? I've said many times that I'll never buy a new car again and until they can produce something that's efficient, inexpensive and easy to work on (no hybrids for this shadetree guy) that'll remain my motto.

                    Regardless, Mercedes of Festiva, it's AWESOME to fill up my car here in Tulsa for around $14.50 from bone dry and drive it 430-450 miles. I can again smile at the pump.
                    Yep! $1.43 and droppin'

                    -"Hairlipstiva" 1991 GL 5spd (swapped from an auto), rolling on Enkei 14x6 +38 with 195/45/14 Toyo's, Jensen MP5720 CD deck, tach install, LED strip in cluster, down position rear wiper, FMS springs, Gabriel shocks on 4 corners, Acura Integra short shifter
                    -Escort GT 91 donor car with BP, G5M-R tranny to be dropped in the little guy...
                    -Aspire brake swap COMPLETE!
                    https://www.wunderground.com/persona...?ID=KOKOWASS38

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                    • #11
                      This is what I'm looking forward to!

                      Steve GT

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ejp2fast View Post
                        Yep! $1.43 and droppin'
                        That wont last forever...just wait till economy pics up...gas prices will go sky high again! They just cant help themselves but to screw us...no one to control the monopoly. Yes, I think gasoline is monopolized. They dont call it Monopoly because to have it, it has to be controled by one company,,,,well, I bet ya anything, Shell, Chevron, BP, etc they got each other phone numbers on speed dial and they jack up the prices at the same time...somehow...strange huh? Ever thought of that? hahahahah I think people learned their lesson and will be more gas price aware....thats only my personal opinion
                        Ski

                        1986 Ferrari Testarossa
                        2002 BMW 745i
                        2002 BMW 325i
                        1989 BP'd Festi :p

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                        • #13
                          I'm actually contemplating this;



                          I think it might be the closest thing to a new Festy since Festies were new...?
                          Jim DeAngelis

                          kittens give Morbo gas!!



                          Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
                          Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CHills View Post
                            This is what I'm looking forward to!

                            What is this?
                            youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                            • #15
                              Some kind of Toyota?,looks to be smaller than a Smart car!
                              Renegade-Midwest Festiva Inc.Illinois Chapter

                              93 Festiva L Aspire 5sp Lots of upgrades & mods
                              99 Dodge Caravan SE
                              95 Taurus SHO auto 265hp
                              94 F150 351W auto (for sale)
                              78 Chevy elcamino 500hp 383 stroker
                              78 Chrysler Cordoba 360 (for sale)
                              03 Harley Davidson Electra Glide
                              95 Honda 1500 Goldwing SE
                              95 F150 4X4 6 inch lift,38" mudders
                              95 Iszuzu Trooper LS

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