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    I know that a VERY large percentage of Festiva owners on here don't have P/S. I am here to tell you guys that after driving my cousin's Festiva for a month now without p/s I miss it A LOT. My first and only Festiva was a 90L-Plus that did have it. Kinda wish I still had the car. Basically what I am saying is if your buddy has p/s don't drive it then you will never now what you are missing unless you know where to find a good p/s setup. Brian tried to get it from me on several occasions.
    -Bryant

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    No power steering is for REAL men
    91 Festiva BP Autocross/Track/Rallycross hopeful
    14 C7 Z51

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    • #3
      Since I've never driven a PS equipped Festy, I can't argue with you.

      However, I really really really don't mind missing an extra fluid reservoir to check and add fluid to. And to remove, work on, work around, worry about, stock fluid for...

      I do like the feeling of "direct road connection" from an unpowered rack and pinion. Loved it on my Chevette, both my '81 and '85 Civics, and all my Festivas.

      Had two K cars with PS. At over 2500 pounds, they did need it, but it was kinda numb for road feel and if I had begun working on them, I'd hate to have had to mess with all the extra parts. Fortunately, all I ever did was brake work and two radiator replacements so the PS was not an issue.

      Now if I were dirtyfilthystinking rich, I'd probably want at least ONE Festy with PS. Why? Do I even have to explain to anyone here? I bet you all know why.

      Just my opinion. YMMV, etc.

      Karl
      Last edited by Safety Guy; 01-07-2011, 01:08 PM.
      '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
      '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
      '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
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      • #4
        When I drive my wife's 626 I notice the huge difference of with and without power steering, it is something I would love to have, but what I really love is it is one less thing to break on the festiva not having it.

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        • #5
          Eh...it's pretty useless on a car with 5 inch wide tires and a contact patch smaller than my hand. Try driving a Mustang with 245/50/17s in the front with no power steering. That'll give you the Popeye forearms after a week of driving it.

          By the way, ^^^ That's 99.9% city driving :cool:

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          • #6
            Never had power steering on a festiva, never really bothered me. Just get used to rolling slowly while turning, it's better for your tires anyway.

            The festiva didn't even get a quicker ratio rack with the PS did it?
            OX SMASH!!

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            • #7
              Plus if you have PS in Missouri, it will fail the safety test if you have leaking PS fluid or a bad rack. This happened on my Outback and it cost me $700 or more, parts and labor. PS on Festivas seems pointless to me, unless the driver is very feeble.
              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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              • #8
                I'm with Karl here. One less fluid to stain the concrete.
                91GL BP/F3A with boost
                13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                • #9
                  Brian has a full PS setup with proper a/c lines and all. ....cough....cough.....
                  -Greg
                  Euro-bprt...WORLDS FASTEST FESTIVA !!! 11.78@115.9
                  BP, G trans, Megasquirt/ 550cc inj. t3/t3 (tbird) Garrett, REAR TURBO!!!! AND AC!!!!
                  Redneck Engineer
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                  • #10
                    I'm used to 2400lbs with a 14:1 rack. It was supposed to be power. I fixed that. I drive my Festiva with one hand and usually 2 fingers. Feels as limp as a wet noodle to me. My favorite is 18:1 manual. Good balance of feel, effort, and quickness IMO. It's all in what you like. If my Festiva had PS I'd probably be scrubbing sideways before I knew I'd turned the wheel.
                    Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                    Old Blue- New Tricks
                    91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eurotiva View Post
                      brian has a full ps setup with proper a/c lines and all. ....cough....cough.....
                      Yes I do!!
                      Brian
                      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2274977



                      93 GL modyfied!!!
                      :fish:

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                      • #12
                        The Pride power steering will fit the Festiva too. But it's a little expensive to ocean freight.

                        You will need the power steering rack, power steering pump and the power steering reservoir.
                        I just realized that these are Mirko's items!
                        I have an extra Festiva power steering reservoir in case you can't find one.

                        The only other items that are required are the short steering column knuckle boot (which I got from an Aspire with power steering) and the extra crankshaft pulley for those without air conditioning.

                        I am guilty of having no tensioner pulley with my air.
                        Last edited by bravekozak; 01-07-2011, 05:28 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 25Horseplay View Post
                          Yes I do!!
                          is that proper a/c stuff the a/c stuff you got off me.
                          -Bryant

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                          • #14
                            turning 15's is like a workout, get jacked in no time :p

                            i dont find it that bad.... even with the heavy bp and G its fine....


                            Mike, AKA the sasquatch
                            1990 LX, bp+T/g25mr, 9psi dynoed at 194HP, turbonetics t3/to4e 57trim, haltech E6X standalone, 550cc injectors, turbosmart wastegate, synapse BOV, walbro 255 fuel pump, aeromotive FPR, AEM wideband, 3 inch exhaust, huge FMIC, 9LB flywheel, 6 puck clutch and way more parts that im forgetting i installed lol...

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                            • #15
                              You guys are wusses. What's the Festy steering ratio?
                              Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                              Old Blue- New Tricks
                              91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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