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  • #31
    Id rather fiberglass a fin on my roof to make it look like a shark
    Last edited by M3NTAL; 08-15-2011, 12:55 PM.
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    • #32
      ^^even that I wouldn't do :lol:

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      1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
      2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

      1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

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      • #33
        Wouldn't the stock spoiler have the same affect? I can understand the logic behind this but it just looks messed up. Kinda reminds me of a aspire/festiva/new fiesta wanna be or something.
        Last edited by festivaWES; 08-15-2011, 04:53 PM.
        89L build thread http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36422

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        • #34
          The Kammback retains the boundary layer of air rushing over the car and then abruptly ends its journey at the rear end where it has less turbulence. (Or something like that.) Compare the the size of the rear end of an unmodded Festiva with the smaller size of the area inside the plastic extension. That makes much less area for the wind coming off the car to add drag.

          The main idea is to keep the air flowing smoothly over the car until it can come off with minimal turbulence.

          The stock spoiler may help a bit on keeping the boundary layer a bit longer but wouldn't work as well as the Kammback does.

          An intermediate tool to do the same thing to a lesser extent would be to have a modified Pride spoiler extended back about half the distance this plastic sheeting one is. People might like how it looks a little better.

          Karl
          '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
          '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
          '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
          '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
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          • #35
            now all that's need to be done is add a 1/4-3/8" right angle piece to the Kammback to cleanly seperate the flow along the surface.
            Trees aren't kind to me...

            currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
            94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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            • #36
              Artie wrote:

              "Now all that's need to be done is add a 1/4-3/8" right angle piece to the Kammback to cleanly seperate the flow along the surface."

              I don't understand.

              A mini spoiler on the end? Or is this a longitudinal installation separating airflow along the body?

              Karl
              '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
              '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
              '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
              '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
              '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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              • #37
                I think you need to ditch the wipers, and apply rain-ex weekly. Pizza pan those wheels, grill block, and look for 6% increase. At 46 at a baseline...that's 2.76 mpg more. Be sure to install a vacuum guage, the work wonders.

                If you need one i have a full sweep 30 psi guage...

                Going alternatorless in some vehichle can net as much as 10% in fuel mileage savings...
                Last edited by festivaWES; 08-15-2011, 05:06 PM.
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                • #38
                  not sure if these images will show up in this forum (sometimes you have to be logged in to the hosting forum site to view em. so i'm posting links as


                  I know it's a "car that shall not be named" but something like this would work. Not so sure about the thing on the back.
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                  • #39


                    This is my take on a mini kammback. Once I get the car lowered my airdamn should help a little too. Also I'm very strongly considering closing off my upper grill, and partially closing the lower. I need to offset my lost mpg from going up to 175/70/13 tires


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rollertoaster View Post
                      This is my take on a mini kammback. Once I get the car lowered my airdamn should help a little too. Also I'm very strongly considering closing off my upper grill, and partially closing the lower. I need to offset my lost mpg from going up to 175/70/13 tires
                      Would have thought with proper (higher) tire pressure you'd have gained MPG depending on driving style.
                      One more benefit of a blocked upper grill, much less wind noise inside the car.
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                      • #41
                        well I like to mess around on the back roads, so I can't got too high on tire pressure 35-38 is my normal. I'm not terribly concerned with wind noise, I have no interior or radio. I listen to my ipod when I drive. lol

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                        • #42
                          Yeah I keep mine at 44-45 psi, especially now as they will rub if I dont keep em full! Man the looks people give though! Double, triple takes, it is really funny watching people react to the Kammstiva!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by hotrodin4me View Post
                            Dont leave that duck tape on very long or
                            it will take you forever and a day to get the glue off the paint.
                            Dont ask how i know that
                            WD-40 is pretty good at getting off duct tape glue. Still need some elbow grease tho.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by TominMO View Post
                              WD-40 is pretty good at getting off duct tape glue. Still need some elbow grease tho.

                              Zippo lighter fluid works great.
                              89L build thread http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36422

                              1996 subaru impreza AWD 5 speed, EJ18

                              Post your festiva pics and vids here: www.movingviolationz.com
                              My site: 20tessa.sytes.net

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Safety Guy View Post
                                Artie wrote:

                                "Now all that's need to be done is add a 1/4-3/8" right angle piece to the Kammback to cleanly seperate the flow along the surface."

                                I don't understand.

                                A mini spoiler on the end? Or is this a longitudinal installation separating airflow along the body?

                                Karl
                                yes, a mini spoiler at the end. take a close look at F1 spoilers and you'll see what i'm talking out.
                                Trees aren't kind to me...

                                currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
                                94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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