Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

kia motor and tranny swap

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • kia motor and tranny swap

    Has anyone actually comtemplated or tried to swap the kia 1.8L? I can't quite afford it right now, but if another kia like this comes up for sale in a couple months, would it be worth the time to try it? nobody talks about swapping these engines, and I'm wondering why? The escort gt's/323's/capris are all but extinct, at least, I have never seen one IRL that I recall.

    2008 Kia Rio- new beater
    1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
    1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
    1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
    1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
    1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
    1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
    1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



    "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

  • #2
    Its a BP. Only issue there is OBD-II.
    91GL BP/F3A with boost
    13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

    Comment


    • #3
      &%(*' I looked it up, and it also shares the same bolt pattern as an aspire! New source for rims! I'm really starting to like these kia's I'm seeing.

      What's the 'big' deal about obd-II? If we're talking about a full swap of the drivetrain and all. All of the aftermarket stuff still works with it right? I figured they would have more stuff for an obd-II vehicle? I'm thinking about getting ahold of the guy to see if he would take any trades..or something.
      2008 Kia Rio- new beater
      1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
      1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
      1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
      1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
      1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
      1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
      1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



      "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

      Comment


      • #4
        Yes, Kia Sephia rims are bolt on. Rios too. Early ones had 13" later had 14". Some may have 15".

        Someone has used Kia BPs in a swap. I imagine they'd strip the engine of any sensors that are exclusive to OBD-II unless they could wire them in. May not be that difficult. A bare BP should be a bare BP. I could be wrong.

        As in the Proteges, look to 1995 as being a possible "transition year" that may not have all the OBD-II stuff in place and could be simpler. Just a theory.

        Karl
        '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
        '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
        '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
        '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
        '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

        Comment


        • #5
          The 98's were all supposed to have 14" rims I think (from edmunds.) Anyway, I've got these ideas in my head and I don't want to just spit it out for fear of making myself look like a complete rtard, I'm just a little rtard k. I'm just trying to get a good sense of what is practical and purposeful toward my goals for now until I can actually start piecing things together. It would be a complete teardown and rebuild tho, so if swapping out an entire wiring harness is what needs to be done, with this car, it could be right? I have to paint anyway so the stuff has to come out either way. I'm just worried about the wiring for stuff like headlights and radiator fans really, I'm not sure how that would work out, since I've never done an engine swap before, then throw obd-II into it and I don't even know if existing wiring will work or if the whole car would need rewired. I left a message with that guy, if the car is in decent shape I'm going to see if I can talk him down to 4-500 and maybe get it.
          Last edited by zoom zoom; 12-25-2011, 07:27 AM.
          2008 Kia Rio- new beater
          1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
          1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
          1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
          1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
          1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
          1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
          1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



          "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

          Comment


          • #6
            If you have a complete donor car and don't mind swapping harnesses, there is absolutely no reason I can see why you couldn't do Kia OBD-II car and keep it OBD-II
            No festiva for me ATM...

            Comment


            • #7
              OBDII-Festy? sounds like an awesome idea
              Andrew Walker

              Current Daily Driver:
              89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
              Projects in the works:
              84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

              Comment


              • #8
                May be doing a Z5 ODBII in the future. Got a buddy with a wrecked '96 protege. Trying to cut a deal for the motor and wiring in exchange for helping him part it out and hauling the shell to scrap for him
                No festiva for me ATM...

                Comment


                • #9
                  No sorry, obd II aspire :p they're out there already
                  2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                  1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                  1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                  1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                  1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                  1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                  1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                  1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                  "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    The 95 protege appears to be pretty much the same as the 96, only I think it just has one o2 sensor. I was lookin into a swap from one on a carbed festy. Seems to me that it would be simpler just to pull the whole engine harness and all from the kia and just use it. Only things that would need to be spliced would be ignition switch, fuel pump, and some power for the ecu I believe.
                    89 L, hopefully returning from the dead soon with a little more power... :twisted:
                    http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...77-my-89-build
                    92 integra, daily driver, broke a clutch disc, sold
                    New dd, 02 Nissan sentra, 1.8 5 spd

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Alright guys I've been seriously considering this, I talked to my fiance, and the guy called back today about it, and I'm supposed to go meet him and check it out wednesday. IF the car is in decent shape, other than the clutch, I may well buy this car if everything goes right. We'll see what happens by the end of the week I suppose, thanks for the replies!
                      2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                      1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                      1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                      1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                      1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                      1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                      1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                      1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                      "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Keep the computer part older than about 2001, The computers from then on will be on a bus line.
                        Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          .... This is all starting to sound VERY interesting. I personally would be interested in converting the 96 Kia Sephia over to a CARBE (WEBBER). You would need a intake manifold for the carb. And my preference would be an external fuel pump instead of the one in the tank since the engine is NOT set up for a mechanical fuel pump. Do away with most of the ECS. Just some thoughts!!! :idea:
                          .

                          Originally posted by zoom zoom View Post
                          Alright guys I've been seriously considering this, I talked to my fiance, and the guy called back today about it, and I'm supposed to go meet him and check it out wednesday. IF the car is in decent shape, other than the clutch, I may well buy this car if everything goes right. We'll see what happens by the end of the week I suppose, thanks for the replies!
                          A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            So, could u swap that obdII motor, computer and everything over to a 97 spire and it still be able to pass a scaned emmisions test?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              why not? it's all OBDII and you're going from old to new. should be easy to pass.
                              Trees aren't kind to me...

                              currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
                              94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X