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[FestYboy]

check your intake tube for cracks, then, if you can get it to idle, grab the VAF harness connector and wiggle it and see if your engine acts up while you wiggle it (poor internal connections in the VAF are common).

[Jacob]

intake valve was good what am i wiggling? i dont fully know sorry

[Movin]

Wiggle the wiring where it plugs into your air filter. The rest of the box that holds
your filter is the Vane Air Flow sensor. Inspect all of this and the ducting from the
VAF to your throttle body and engine. Wiggle them with the engine idling and
look carefully to find leaks. Listen to the engine while doing this, the change
in the idle might be subtle.

[sc72]

VAF wires

Jacob, this pic is of the Vaf and the wires connected to it are the ones Festyboy and Movin are asking you to wiggle.

[Christ]

You can spray starting fluid or carb cleaner or vent a propane torch near the intake tubing to check for leaks.

Starting fluid and propane - idle increase
carb cleaner - idle decrease.

[Jacob]

ok so the wires when i wiggle them does nothing but i can pull it out enough to were it will slowly go down and die but if i put it back in soon enough it will catch up quick and be good. I hope that answers your questions. As far as leaks go i have checked once or twice before but was no problems. i have not been able to spray anything in tho. if i do i will let you know what i find.

[georgeb]

The engine you sound determined to yank appears healthy. It's an ancillary component that is causing the driveabiity issue.

[iceracerdude]

...It's an ancillary component that is causing the driveabiity issue.

What's imho mean? bwaahaha

[Christ]

What's imho mean? bwaahaha

In my humble opinion. Or honest opinion. Either way.

[DriverOne]

i can pull it out enough to were it will slowly go down and die but if i put it back in soon enough it will catch up quick and be good.

You mean if you unplug the wires, the engine will stall? The reason for that is that the VAF is the lifeline of the engine outside of fuel & spark. If you don't have that connected, or there's a break in the wiring that connects to it, it won't read the gate inside the VAF and so cut power to the engine.

Your fusible links (the wire loops you replaced) can be replaced by 30AMP cartridge fuses (some members use different configurations, like -left to right- 20A-30A-20A or 30A-40A-30A) to ensure that if there is an issue, those will blow first instead of burning out wires.

I'd take Htchbck up on his offer, if you think it's the dizzy. I'll vouch for him any day. That is, unless I'm in the Pace Car. *poke @ Htchbck* :evil4:

[htchbck]

^^ Agree, please do not vouch for me while driving the Sad-turd (as we used to call my old Saturn lol). The Dizzy is in route, should reach him today or tomorrow.

[DriverOne]

^^ Agree, please do not vouch for me while driving the Sad-turd (as we used to call my old Saturn lol). The Dizzy is in route, should reach him today or tomorrow.

Pace. Car.

[Jacob]

ok it arrived 3 days ago and i just got it placed in. the idle is a lot better and the passenger that used to own the car says he cannot feel idle in passanger seat. it has slight loss of power compared to before but has not been missing or dying like it used to. I think this was the fix.

thanks everyone

[william]

Slight loss in power is probably due to timing, you should check the timing with a timing light. not sure off hand what the b3 timing is set to, but i believe its under the hood on a sticker. When checking timing you have to ground the connector coming out of the disty, or plug the timing advance lines on a carbed model. But glade you got it going.

[htchbck]

William is correct, probably the timing is a couple degrees off. Even if you put the new distributor back on in exactly the same spot as the old one was, there can still be slight variations between distributors that can make a difference in ignition timing. Glad to hear its back on the road though!

Oh and Dustin you left out a couple words there...

Can't keep up the Pace. Car.

TIFI!