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You could try using an early B6 intake. The plenum volume is much bigger than the B3. The runners are larger as well, but you could probably match the ports in the head or use the B3 lower section and match it to the B6 upper intake.Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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Yeah, I would tend to agree as well. Compared to the over-all length, there isn't a whole lot that actually protrudes into the port. Plus, the last 1/4" or so of the guide does not actually contact the valve stem anyway. If it was a cast iron head with integral guides, most people grind the guide boss off flush with the port ceiling anyway. I actually thought about cutting the guides off when I ported my head as well, but I didn't think it would be worth the extra effort or add that much flow. I was also unsure of the effect on guide wear, and with the higher lift cam, I wanted to play it safe. Instead, I opted to grind the outside diameter of the guide smaller (where it protrudes into the port) and bullet nose the ends of the guides. It would have been easy to cut them off, since I had brand new guides.........had I known it was worth that much flow I would have, but Oh well. At least it makes me optomistic that the mods I did do should have some benefit.
I can't wait to see the mods on the chamber. Do you know if Matt has his own flow bench or has someone else test his heads? I asked him once, but can't remember the answer. I would love to have some hard flow numbers to play with. The only problem with this thread is that it's about 6 months too late, LOL.Last edited by blkfordsedan; 10-25-2012, 12:43 PM.Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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Originally posted by nitrofarm View PostYou gonna put it on a Dyno? I'd love to see what she'll do. Its too bad they never made a serious intake for the B3. The stock one looks like it could hold back air flow on the top end. So Matt has 1.3 turbo's? Does he have exhaust manifolds also?
Yeah, matt has turbos and he can make manifolds as well, all you have to do is ask. i inquired about a turbo and manifold combo and he said in the $500 range (not bad really)Trees aren't kind to me...
currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.
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Originally posted by blkfordsedan View PostYou could try using an early B6 intake. The plenum volume is much bigger than the B3. The runners are larger as well, but you could probably match the ports in the head or use the B3 lower section and match it to the B6 upper intake.
Matt has his own flow bench, and IIRC he said getting much more than 100cfm out of our runners is difficult. just shows you how small our stuff really is. and he also mentioned that anything above .480 lift netted "0" gain in flow.Last edited by FestYboy; 10-25-2012, 04:36 PM.Trees aren't kind to me...
currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.
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Originally posted by FestYboy View Postthat was discussed last night on chat... but it'll happen AFTER i've maxed out all the B3 stuffs
Matt has his own flow bench, and IIRC he said getting much more than 100cfm out of our runners is difficult. just shows you how small our stuff really is. and he also mentioned that anything above .480 lift netted "0" gain in flow.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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I assume he's only worked with/flowed a B3 head? I wonder what a B6 head will flow with the larger ports and valves. I wish I knew knew Matt had his own bench...I would have sent him my head and had him flow test it. I propose you do a complete and detailed writeup with all the juicy details as soon as possible!!!!Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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as it is, i'll be sending 3-4 cams to him, i happen to have a spare stripped B6 head..... hmmm i think if i ask really nicely, we could maybe get #s from him.Trees aren't kind to me...
currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.
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Originally posted by blkfordsedan View PostI assume he's only worked with/flowed a B3 head? I wonder what a B6 head will flow with the larger ports and valves. I wish I knew knew Matt had his own bench...I would have sent him my head and had him flow test it. I propose you do a complete and detailed writeup with all the juicy details as soon as possible!!!!Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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Originally posted by nitrofarm View PostI wish I would have known to remove the extra portion of the valve guide. I just rebuilt my head,but havent got around to installing it.Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
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Originally posted by scitzz View PostBest time to remove it is before it is installedSome people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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Originally posted by nitrofarm View Postits getting colder ever day.Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
"Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.
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Originally posted by blkfordsedan View PostI assume he's only worked with/flowed a B3 head? I wonder what a B6 head will flow with the larger ports and valves. I wish I knew knew Matt had his own bench...I would have sent him my head and had him flow test it. I propose you do a complete and detailed writeup with all the juicy details as soon as possible!!!!An idea can turn to dust or magic, depending on the talent that rubs against it.
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Originally posted by nitrofarm View PostI wish I would have known to remove the extra portion of the valve guide. I just rebuilt my head,but havent got around to installing it.
Originally posted by sc72 View PostWhy not send your head up to Dan Harry in Sioux City AKA Harry Heads. His people do a good job.Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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Haha! If I had a spare junk head, I would work over 3 of the 4 cylinders...each with varying amounts of mods done. Then I would have him flow each one to get an idea of what effect each mod has and compare to the stock cylinder. Then he could do the remaining cylinder himself to see what he can get out of it (if he wanted). If you're interested, I may be able to kick in some bucks....assuming he would charge us, of course. It may cost too much, but it sure would be cool.Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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