Warnings Not to Use ‘E15’ Gas in Your Car | Fox Business Video

[boydg1]

BE SURE TO LOOK AT THIS!!!!... E-mail as received.



Listen to this and pass it on. E-15 gas is very harmful to all pre 2012 vehicles. AAA warns against using it.

Warnings Not to Use ‘E15’ Gas in Your Car | Fox Business Video

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

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[jawbraeka]

i've used e10 fuel on my car.. as long as it has some regular "unleaded" fuel mixed with it, you'll be fine.

[DriverOne]

Re: Warnings Not to Use ‘E15’ Gas in Your Car | Fox Business Video

I've used e10 fuel on my car.. as long as it has some regular "unleaded" fuel mixed with it, you'll be fine.

I know for a fact that E10 damages fuel system components. I have seen the results. I no longer buy ethanol-laced fuel. I have a special gesture for the government on that one... ...Where are my finger puppets?

[zoom zoom]

Around here everything is laced with some ethanol, every gas station has posted signs of it saying "may contain up to (5 or 10%) ethanol" depending on where you stop. I've heard of e85, being 15% ethanol and 85% gas, but what is e10 and e15? Surely the gas wouldn't be that diluted, or is it?

[DriverOne]

Re: Warnings Not to Use ‘E15’ Gas in Your Car | Fox Business Video

E85 is 85% ethanol, 15% gas. 105 octane rating. E15 is the opposite. Consider it to be said like this: (E)thanol = (10)% : E10.

[KingFish]

The major drawback of E fuels in older cars is the lower o2 content and it's detergent like properties. The lower o2 means you could run lean if the fuel system is mot able to compensate and the detergent properties break up old varnish left by petro based fuels and that can clog up the system As far as I am aware, all new Fords have flex fuel tech (up to E85) and I have been running E10 ( really E7 or so if you check it) for a couple of years with zero problems. I work in a Ford dealership and have heard nothing about E15 voiding anything. Looks like Faux News getting everyone rilled up to sell ad spots to me.

EDIT: I don't really keep up on ALL the new TSB's so I will need to do a bit of research about this at work in the morn.

I like the idea of organic fuel. Renewable, higher octane and if we can keep the red tape to a min, cheaper fuel FTW.

[jawbraeka]

The major drawback of E fuels in older cars is the lower o2 content and it's detergent like properties. The lower o2 means you could run lean if the fuel system is mot able to compensate and the detergent properties break up old varnish left by petro based fuels and that can clog up the system As far as I am aware, all new Fords have flex fuel tech (up to E85) and I have been running E10 ( really E7 or so if you check it) for a couple of years with zero problems. I work in a Ford dealership and have heard nothing about E15 voiding anything. Looks like Faux News getting everyone rilled up to sell ad spots to me.

EDIT: I don't really keep up on ALL the new TSB's so I will need to do a bit of research about this at work in the morn.

I like the idea of organic fuel. Renewable, higher octane and if we can keep the red tape to a min, cheaper fuel FTW.

If everyone is so paranoid about how it reacts, just run seafoam to clean the lines and make sure there's nothing there to screw up your system and then i recommend a 1/3 unleaded : 2/3 e10 ratio mix to ease any concerns.. i don't place any warranty on this method if you want to try it yourselves.. but i can say this, i do it myself and i haven't had any issues, however i did have issues when i filled with a full tank of e10 and before i seafoamed the engine. after i seafoamed the engine, i noticed that the problems "dissapeared" and haven't been back since. i will also add that, i won't say that the seafoam was the complete silver bullet as there may have been other underlying issues that i wasn't aware of (also i seafoamed for other "fuel related issues also", which is posted elsewhere (search for soap)), but since then everything has been fine.

i decided on the ratio so that it was still getting the benefits of the unleaded fuel for the motor and also the economical benefits of the e10..

I will do a full e10 run and see if there are any issues that come from this again.

[blkfordsedan]

We've had E10 since the OPEC oil embargo in the 1980's. We ran it in our '60s, '70s and '80s model cars and trucks for 30 years. I can't say I recall ever having an issue.

[gtalbot]

I have seen some minor issues in my boat, which tends to sit much longer than my cars do. Such as fuel lines breaking down and such. My only real issue with the ethanol thing is that we are turning food products into fuel. There are subsidy concerns and a whole slew of other issues that arise in the ethanol debate. I don't know if it is a good or bad thing, just that it is an issue...

Just my 2cents..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_vs._fuel

[sketchman]

E10 is all we have here besides one station that's totally out of the way, and I don't think I've ever had issues from it, but IDK.

[lessersivad]

The major drawback of E fuels in older cars is the lower o2 content and it's detergent like properties. The lower o2 means you could run lean if the fuel system is mot able to compensate and the detergent properties break up old varnish left by petro based fuels and that can clog up the system As far as I am aware, all new Fords have flex fuel tech (up to E85) and I have been running E10 ( really E7 or so if you check it) for a couple of years with zero problems. I work in a Ford dealership and have heard nothing about E15 voiding anything. Looks like Faux News getting everyone rilled up to sell ad spots to me.

EDIT: I don't really keep up on ALL the new TSB's so I will need to do a bit of research about this at work in the morn.

I like the idea of organic fuel. Renewable, higher octane and if we can keep the red tape to a min, cheaper fuel FTW.

The following is simply my opinion;

I have to disagree with the "only major drawback" statement.

The major drawback IMHO is, ethanol contains less BTU's per gallon than gasoline. I don't care about the octane rating as I'm not running 12 to 1 compression. I DO care about "bang for the buck" when addressing fuel mileage.

Heck, if I want cheap alternative fuel that is readily available I would do a propane conversion. Cheaper per gallon, burns cleaner, and an octane rating well over 100. Never mind the fact that it only has approx. 65% to 70% BTU's (energy) of gasoline.

Oh that's right, it's not the latest "feel good fuel" that has every politician acting as giddy as lil' school girls touts as the "silver bullet". My mistake.

As for "ending our dependence on foreign oil" crap. Yea, you could plant EVERY acre of plantable ground, including eveyone's yards to corn, and have MAYBE enough fuel to run the vehicles of the U.S. for 2 weeks. That is IF all of the harvest was converted to ethanol and released for sale at the same time.

Yup, yet another "we know what's best" from the EPA.

Pffftttt.......

[Twistiva]

lessersivad -

Agree with you 100%!

[Bert]

As seen from previous posts; do not mistake E85 for a product that you can fuel a Festy with. In "booze" terms E85 translates to 170 Proof! It is getting more and more difficult to avoid ethanol-blend gasoline unless you specifically seek out Premium grade gasoline. The label at the pump will usually tell you how much Ethanol is in the various grades. Folks that drive mechanical carburetor engines are best off with non-alcohol fuels unless the mixture screws have been specifically re-adjusted to account for that stuff.

[rbrown]

My Flex warns not to use higher E ratings.

And my gripe is as lessers has said. Lower BTU. I know my cars get fewer miles per gallon with Ethanol.
Also the shelf life is much much shorter and it being hygroscopic.
And the cost to just make the stuff.

There is many reasons to not like it.

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[sketchman]

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That's really weird. I thought the whole point of a Flex Fuel was to be able to use E-whatever. But they specifically state "Gas/E10". Very weird. Maybe their quiet rebellion against the corn squeezers.