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Not super familiar with engine differences in these cars yet so I have a question:

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  • Not super familiar with engine differences in these cars yet so I have a question:




    Would this engine be the same as the stock Festiva?
    It looks pretty similar to me. And is this a decent price for it?
    They dont show any mileage or anything as far as I can tell.
    1993 Festiva - White/Black - 5 speed

  • #2
    1.6L vs Festiva/Aspire 1.3L
    Simple swap and if it runs good its a great price.
    N3WBI3

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    • #3
      That would be a second gen B6. These are basically drop in, plug and play engines that give you around 20HP more than stock. Of course with the second gen B6 you have to get a little creative with the VAF, and intake ducting. Other than that, it will run on the B3 ECU and VAF but only as a temporary solution. The B6 ECU and VAF being plug and play as well. As long as it is from a 90s 323.
      1991 Ford Festiva BP (Full Aspire/Rio Swap) (337k Miles) (Around 95k Engine)
      2002 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport 2.2L DOHC Ecotec (Threw a Rod)
      1998 Chevy Monte Carlo LS 3.1 V6 (225k miles) Best MPG = 28

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      • #4
        Man. These cars seem pretty versatile. Thanks
        for the clarification

        So is B the engine code and the 3 or 6 the
        secondary displacement figure?

        I saw an Aspire in the junk yard. Is the only difference
        there in the intake? Or are the ECU's different as well?
        Last edited by SWRT; 10-08-2014, 11:03 AM.
        1993 Festiva - White/Black - 5 speed

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        • #5
          On the Aspire motors, you use the Festiva intake and I believe you use the disty too. Aspire motors also have roller cam followers instead of the flat cam followers on the Festiva.
          And yes, B is the engine series, 3 is a 1.3l or 1300cc, 6 is 1.6l or 1600 cc.
          Jerry
          Team Lightning



          Owner of Team Lightning
          90 L "Peewee" B6D. Bought new May 16,1990
          92 L Thunder BP G5M-R Turbo B6T electronics. Jan 2016 FOTM winner SOLD
          93 L Lightning. BP



          Not a user of drugs or alcohol, Just addicted to Festiva's

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          • #6
            The difference between then Aspire Engines, and Festy Engines is I think the Aspire uses roller lifters. Also I think they don't use a v-belt setup, and use the more common ribbed serpentine belts. Also 1996 and newer ones had OBD2, but I don't know if there are extra sensors that had to have been added for that. I am not sure, but I don't think you can use pre-96' Aspire ECUs, and I definitely tell you that the post-96' ECU will not work because they are OBD2.

            But yeah the 3 and 6 is the secondary displacement figure on B-series engine. Here is a good source of info on Mazda B engines.


            About every engine on that list, except for the later revisions of the BP have all been crammed into a Festiva at one point. B1 being a stock engine in foreign countries, B5 being a engine option in Australia for the Generation 2 Festiva (What we call Aspire), BJ being a DOHC version of the B3 only used in Japan in the Festiva GTA and GTX models.

            The plain jane B6s though are by far the easiest to swap in, especially the first gen B6 (Pre 90s) can be dropped in, and still use the stock intake ducting since the throttle body aims over the valve cover like the stock B3, while the second gen B6 aims to the drivers side like you see in that craigslist ad.

            While other engines are a bit more involved, some requiring you to mess with the engine mounts, add wires for sensors that the stock harness doesn't have, and swapping pulleys.

            I think probably the second least difficult engine swap is probably the B8 from a Protege which would give 40HP over stock.
            1991 Ford Festiva BP (Full Aspire/Rio Swap) (337k Miles) (Around 95k Engine)
            2002 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport 2.2L DOHC Ecotec (Threw a Rod)
            1998 Chevy Monte Carlo LS 3.1 V6 (225k miles) Best MPG = 28

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            • #7
              http://www.clubprotege.com/wil/tech/b-seriesengineswapfaq.htm

              This link to the clubprotege site has a lot of information about B3 engine swaps that could be helpful to you.

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              • #8
                .

                To use an aspire engine In a festiva, you need to use ALL festiva radiator parts, the distributed from the festiva and the intake and exhaust from the festiva I believe you can use the 1994-1996.... correct me if I'm wrong....
                Last edited by old yellow; 10-08-2014, 05:15 PM.
                Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

                Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

                Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
                it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

                Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

                TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
                bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

                '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

                SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

                R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

                R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


                R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

                R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

                R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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                • #9
                  And you need to use the coolant pipe that runs around the engine to the back.
                  Jerry
                  Team Lightning



                  Owner of Team Lightning
                  90 L "Peewee" B6D. Bought new May 16,1990
                  92 L Thunder BP G5M-R Turbo B6T electronics. Jan 2016 FOTM winner SOLD
                  93 L Lightning. BP



                  Not a user of drugs or alcohol, Just addicted to Festiva's

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                  • #10
                    You'll also need the VAf, and ecu
                    -Greg
                    Euro-bprt...WORLDS FASTEST FESTIVA !!! 11.78@115.9
                    BP, G trans, Megasquirt/ 550cc inj. t3/t3 (tbird) Garrett, REAR TURBO!!!! AND AC!!!!
                    Redneck Engineer
                    FOTY - '09
                    5x Festiva Madness Attendee...FM 3,4,5,6,8
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpCZ7...9Pwqw-oe8s2OYQ
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_eX...9Pwqw-oe8s2OYQ

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                    • #11
                      Considering I'd already have all that crap from my Festiva then none
                      of that's a big deal So mainly you're using the block and all of the
                      extra's from the Festiva then. Cool deal Thanks a lot, guys
                      1993 Festiva - White/Black - 5 speed

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