Need complete illustrated parts breakdown diagrams and parts numbers -- in English!

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

I just purchased my fourth squeaky-clean (no rust) LX. I think I have critical mass now to justify renting some industrial space and hiring a local motivated kid-genius wrench-slinger to upgrade them all to FI. Every one of the four has carb stumbling problems. I have plenty of complete FI donors, all with body issues, so they are "donors" which will be scrapped after this is done. A friend 50 miles away whose back yard is filled with these donors will surely be happy to see them disappear.

I know that I'll have to transplant fuel tanks and wiring harnesses. I also want to replace all kinds of stuff like shifter bushings and virtually every rubber part during the process, including having the gearboxes overhauled and replacing all of the drive shafts, wheel bearings, brakes, etc.

See attached photo of three of my four LXs, plus a 91GL with PS behind them.

The only problem is being able to FIRST place a LARGE order with Four Green. I want to buy every conceivable part I might need, NOT wait until something is partially disassembled.

While Bravekozak and other have been able to provide occasional part info, I want to have everything on the bench before I start and be prepared to place additional "rush" orders during the project.

I recently visited this place:

https://books4cars.com/

and talked with the proprietor. He has hardbound Ford books that may well have all the info I need, but each book is specific to one model year and cover EVERYTHING Ford sold that year, not just Festivas. Also, he has separate books (again, one per model year), each covering all models for that year. Each book costs more than $100, sometimes close to $200. I spent an hour there puzzling over how to find things this way and it's a royal pain.

I also want to have electrical schematics, but I don't think that's so much of an issue, having already collected several years of them (including 89, I think) off this site. I also have an original 93 green service manual I bought from Ford back in 2000 when I got my first Festy.

Sure somebody has the illustrations and p/n info I need in a usable form ...

[william]

http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/showthread.php?50824-4GREEN-GRAB-BAG&highlight=green+grab+bag

This is a good start I know it's no where near everything but has quite a bit and pics and part numbers

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

William,

I don't have time to go through bits of info like this, effectively generating my own database of parts. Why is it so hard to get this kind of info? I've been asking on this site now for at least 3-5 years.

I could strike a deal with books4cars.com to get all the pages I need copied from the big books, but that seems like a goofy approach, and I'm not sure he has every year, nor that he'll let me make copies vs. buying whole books.

I also have a day job that keeps me alive and is going to pay for this. Much as I'd like to spend the rest of my life fiddling with Festies, that doesn't pay the mortgage!

[jawja jim]

The Russian site http://koreacat.ru/kia/groups/GEXK0309/? has pretty good illustrations/ exploded views, but the nomenclature often is bizarre, even translated into English. Not totally inclusive, but pretty thorough and with part numbers you can plug in at Fourgreen. I like to run it in Chrome with automatic translation, copy numbers, and then have Fourgreen running in a separate browser ready to paste the numbers. It will not have things that were specific to US cars, like auto seatbelts.

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

This is a Korean car whose design and manufacture was commissioned by an American company called Ford. It was heavily imported into English-speaking countries called USA and Canada, and many countries in Western Europe under various names.

How could it be that documentation is only available in Russian? Am I the only speaker of English (plus some French and a bit of German) who is scratching his head on this one?

Any Ford dealer can pull up the diagrams in English. Where do they get their information?

[TominMO]

Two alternate possibilities for you:
1. learn Russian
or (possibly easier)
2. convert one or two of them to run an Escort or Weber carb, to get rid of your carb stumbling issues. That would give you time to do the others more at your leisure. This is also a lot quicker and cheaper than converting to EFI.

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

Nyet!

Surely, you can't be serious ... what is inherently "Russian" about the Festiva?

[jawja jim]

There's nothing Russian about Festiva, but there is a lot Korean about Kia Prides. That website is only for Korean made vehicles and , judging by the number listed, they must have many, or a variety of them, in Russia. You asked for illustrations and part numbers and it has both. Maybe our new Prez, being tight with Putin, will get it translated so it will meet your needs. If you think a Ford dealer can access all that info in English, get them to do it for you. I find the method I suggested quite usable, and that was what you asked for.

[TominMO]

Nyet!

Surely, you can't be serious ... what is inherently "Russian" about the Festiva?

See, you're making progress already!

What about a carb upgrade tho?

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

I don't want to mess with carbs any longer.

I'll run it by The Donald the next time I'm in NYC and we do lunch.

[F3BZ]

electronic parts catalogs (DVD) used to be pretty easy to get off ebay at a reasonable price but i notice not much available doing a qwik search. ideally you'd want to have a Ford Microcat EPC and a Kia Microcat EPC you can install on PC.
the Kia one will be of most use to you for looking up parts that are actually still available (from 4G). but even they are starting to run out of some parts. it is very easy to navigate but since it is a "world parts" EPC, and the Pride wasn't sold here, it is sometimes hard to know which parts from which region will match a Festiva part. luckily though this usually only matters with mainly the emissions parts and to a lesser degree fuel and electrical systems. otherwise most of the Pride parts are a direct fit. plastics though seem to be a lower quality molding than in the Festiva. even though the Festiva was built in Korea, i suspect they were assembled using Mazda parts from Japan.
the Ford parts EPC will give you the Ford #s for all US cars & trucks from 80s on up, depending on which version you get. but without a source, the numbers won't do you much good. Ford stopped selling parts for the Festiva in 2004. some OEM parts are still available in dealerships dead inventory and through re-sellers who bought up old inventory and ebay so if you have the # you can look it up on Parts Voice or Rear Counter to see if there is any left in the country.
here is a link to a seller of these EPCs. i never bought from this place but it is the same Microcat EPC that i have for Kia. make sure you get the correct DVD that is compatible with your OS.

https://www.epcatalogs.com/KIA0508/

[AlaskaFestivaGuy]

F3BZ,

I'm not asking for any guarantee of parts availability.

What I'm asking for is parts breakdown diagrams with part numbers. Just like several members here have posted and I see in the thick all-model books at the books4car.com store I visited. BUT ... I want ALL of the pages for the Festiva, preferably for all years (though that's not essential since so little varies from year to year). I don't need anything electronic (like a DVD) -- paper would be just fine.

Actually finding parts is another matter. At least I want to be able to look for parts BEFORE I lease shop space (probably for only 6 months), hire a mechanic-employee, and start taking things apart (e.g. the donor vehicles). Toward that end, I'm already buying things like complete FI wiring harnesses on this site and am ample supply of the old Molex connectors they use from a source in Japan.

Per your suggestion, I visited epcatalogs.com, noted that they're one of those companies that doesn't have a telephone number (at least not one that they publish on their website), so I emailed them on Monday. Here it is Saturday, and they have not responded.

[F3BZ]

Good luck on that. Prior to the DVD epc the dealers were issued Ultrafiche and the big Mark VII fiche readers. There were also PDF CDs that could be printed from. Starting late 90s the electronic parts catalog started dominating the parts dept.
In none of these formats did the parts diagram include any numbers other than the base part #. The full # you'd need would be on or in a separate section of the fiche or cd.
The DVD epc is easiest. Just click on the base # next to the part in the diagram and up pops all the #s for that part on the car.
I printed out all the diagram pages for 88-93 festival and there are at least 200. There might be anywhere from 1 to 30 base numbers on a diagram page and for each base # you'd have to print a page to get all the complete #s related to that part. So a hard copy catalog would be 1000s of pages.
There might be a Ford issued hard catalog but I've never seen one and my counter man never heard of 1.
Hopefully you'll get a reply. I noticed a Ford USA DVD on ebay pretty cheap a few days ago

[F3BZ]

well proves me wrong. this auction shows what appears to be a 1980s print parts catalog. though at that price i think it will turn to dust before it sells.
i'm trying to figure out how to make a 1980s parts CD from a copy protected one i have.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Ford-Thunderbird-Fairmont-Granada-LTD-Pinto-Festiva-Parts-Catalog-Manual/252717294023?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3Dc99e5cdf1ad549a9952a8759d6e9aa76%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D332087148219

[reddragon]

Mazda has it online, so use 121 for the early festiva parts

http://mazdaepc.com/