Wheel Bearing Question

[Pu241]

:shock:Wow!
gareth69 is likely right, what I miss took as a non-OEM spindle nut is likely the remains of your outer bearing.

[anomaly798]

correct there is no nut in that picture it is on the ground...all i have done is remove the drum and sprayed the parts with brake cleaner

when i get home tonight i will post more pics of the drum and such.

Where do i get a spindle? what is the cheapest option? not a lot of junkyards around here, does anyone know if any other models share this spindle?

PS. nothing came off the spindle...whatever that piece is on the end is stuck and the other bearing cant slide off with it stuck there. also there were pieces of metal debris in with the grease

Thanks for all the help so far...as i feared this is going to be time consuming and possiby expensive

-Rob

[Pu241]

Post a [WTB] in the appropriate forum.
I do not believe any other vehicle shares this spindle.
Other option is the Aspire swap.
Cheaper and most immediate option is to get a used festiva spindle.
assuming no damage to the drum itself.
Do not forget to spray the nuts on the back of the brake backing plate with penetrant, so they will be easier to remove.

[skeeters_keeper]

yea... your spindle and bearings are screwed! Possible the drum as well. your best bet is to do the aspire rear brakes now... finding the spindle for that side is hard and expensive since most of them are reverse threaded and a lot of people (and shops) screw them up!

[anomaly798]

is there any chance of getting my spindle machined and reusing it?

i have called all the jucnkyards in my area and no luck so far....

i did find a ford part for it but it was 60 bucks


-Rob

[Pu241]

I would think to get that one machined would cost you more than $60 and if not done properly will ruin your new bearings in short order.
Not to mention getting the threads redone, probably by hand.
I would think someone might have a used one somewhere.
But need to have some patience, as everyone is not on this board everyday!
Did you put up a [WTB] request?

[anomaly798]

ill post a [wtb] but unfortunately school and work don't allow much patience

if time wasn't a factor i would just wait to find an aspire swap but i need to get the car back on the road a.s.a.p.

if i do buy a new spindle will i bge able to use it with an aspire swap or will that money be wasted?

-Rob

[Pu241]

If you have to put it on the road ASAP then your going to need to bite the bullet and get that $60 spindle.
Cheaper and faster than an aspire swap, if you have to replace the aspire bearings/brakes/wheel cylinders.
No, the Festiva spindle will not transfer to the aspire rear axle.
Wasted is a relative term.
You will get your car back on the road.
It will be safe.
You will learn how to replace bearings and races.
I'm a little concerned that you want to do an Aspire swap but you don't know the components of your existing setup well enough to identify them.
The above isn't meant as an insult, many will attest here that if that is what I intended it would be very plain and in your face.
I say with with concern for your safety and those who also travel the same road you do.
Additionally, this will buy you time to find an good aspire swap as opposed to taking what you can get now.
You can always sell the the festiva spindles if they are in good shape.
Because as you are finding out they are not easy to come by.
BTW, you might want to amend your WTB as you can also use a drivers side normal spindle if it has the castellated nut and cotter pin setup!

[jglutz]

The spindle can Not be machined accurately.
The tolerance of the spindle diameter is less than 0.001" more like ±0.0001.
Also. the concentricity between the larger and smaller diameter is just as tight.
This is accomplished by a percise grinding machine typically not available at most machine shops. Not on a lathe.

What I have done....with sucess...in similar situations is to take a dremmel tool with an abrassive cut-off wheel is to cut a slot in the stuck bearing along the axis of the spindle.
I stop just shy of the spindle. Then using a pry driver tool...I pry the bearing open and snap it off the spindle. Sometimes...cutting two slots 180° apart will make the snapping alittle easier. Then stone any high spots or burrs off the spindle.

Minor cosmetic imperfections will not hurt anything. Duct tape any exposed parts of the spindle to prevent unwanted damage.

This will work provided the bearing race did not spin and weld itself to the spindle. I think it worth a shot....will not take long.

[Pu241]

anomaly798,
The Haynes manual actually does have pics of the spindle check out 9-8,9-9, 9-10, and 9-11.
You even get a peek of what them outer bearing washer and nut look like

[anomaly798]

No offense taken Pu241, i have done engine swaps and replaced clutches and trannys but honestly i have never dealt with the inner workings of the hubs before so this is new to me.

I am going to just buy the spindle to be assured that i have the a good useable piece.


-Rob