2 dumb questions...

[Safety Guy]

I want the Creationist Block of aluminum alloy!!

And while you're at it, make it about a 1.7 with around 120hp.

Bolt-in, of course. With cute angels helping the install and a mechanically inclined mermaid for afterwards.

Karl

[rret]

did you also swap the distributor?

We installed a used Aspire B3 in a 90 Festy with a swap of the manifolds and pulley system. This included reusing the Dealer installed A/C system that was on the Festy,with no problems at all. It was a straight swap with no issues that went easier than installing a crate engine from FMS.

Michael

thanks - makes sense. one other question, did you also swap the distributor? (the reason I ask is that as the festiva evolved (finally to the aspire) the distributors seemed to get more sensors built into them, along with more electrical connectors.)

[m715]

The intake, exhast manifold, dist etc was reused from the Festiva engine. Everything bolted right up. The only time we have ever had any problems swapping engines was not paying attention, and trying to use a 90 up intake on an 89 ATX car. Not enough vaccum ports in the right spots there. Just use the bare block with the original parts like the pulleys, manifolds etc and you should be fine as long as you have a good engine to work with. Don't be surprised to find it has more zip too.....

Michael

[rret]

thx m715

thx for your reply. as before, makes a lot of sense.

i just picked up a '95 aspire for $600 with the intention of using it's engine in a '91 festy. but it runs so good i'm having 2nd thoughts. the '91 festy had leaking freeze plugs & block due to rust, but i ***may*** have fixed that with a poop load of JB-Weld. time will tell. so far so good - knock on wood. let me know if u would like to see a pic of my jb-weld repair and i'll post a pic. i even painted the block Ford Blue after the jb-weld had dried.

[BigElCat]

You guys are right, the block is cast iron. I assumed all modern Nippon designed four-bangers would be aluminum, like the Suzukis. My Toyota 20R had an aluminum block, didn't it?

Suzukis use steel freeze plugs in their aluminum blocks.

Anybody can make a mistake, I doesn't necessarily mean I'm s l o w.

[Pu241]

You guys are right, the block is cast iron. I assumed all modern Nippon designed four-bangers would be aluminum, like the Suzukis. My Toyota 20R had an aluminum block, didn't it?

Wrong again!

Couldn't find my manual on the 20R motor, but did find the manual for the 8R and 18R motors, which have cast blocks and aluminum heads.
So the best I can do on short notice was this:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080224003912AAyFXR5

Anybody can make a mistake, I doesn't necessarily mean I'm s l o w.

True, but it doesn't mean your not either!
But, me thinks the trend is becoming clear when you make the same mistake twice.
I guess what really bothers me is you attempt to provide information that you clearly do not posses.
Do us all a favor and check your "facts" before you post them!

[BigElCat]

Wrong again!

Couldn't find my manual on the 20R motor...

Wrong? It was question. It was wrong to ask it here, but I was just making conversation.

Sorry if I confused anyone regarding the B3 block.

Bad advice can get expensive. I spent about $300 bucks on my Samurai that didn't need to be spent, following somebody's on-line advice. I never got mad at the guy, though, he was really cool and trying to be helpful.

We don't need to go to the arena to 'throw down', I try not to degenerate into using foul language or coarse jesting. Let's not Cyberjack this guy's thread anymore.

[rret]

pulleys are not interchangable

I do believe you will run into a drive belt issue since the aspire has serpentine belts and the festiva has V-belts and the differences in crankshaft pulleys

i have started the engine swap (pull the '91 festy engine and replace it with a '95 aspire engine).
here is what i have found-

the end of the crankshaft where the timing chain sprocket slides onto is way different between a '91 festy and a '95 aspire, so i'll have to use the aspire pulleys (and buy a used aspire alternator/pulley).

1) has anyone else noticed this?
2) any other gotcha's ???

[m715]

Is your 91 engine's crankshaft smaller diameter? This would be an "early" (1988-1990 + some 1991) type crank engine vs all engines in later Festivas. Some 1991's could have still had the earlier crankshaft. If this is the case, you can use the large snout pulley from a later Festiva to correct this, and still use v belts. There would, other than that, only be one sensor of a different diameter, also being early\ smaller, later\ larger thread where it screws into the head. These are the only differences I have run into even with the Aspire B3 blocks.

Michael

[zoe60]

I'm pretty sure that the only festiva with a crank pulley that will fit an aspire motor is a '93. Took me a long time to find one. If you dont have air you can use the Aspire alternator but you'll have to figure out the wiring. I'v got an Aspire engin in an '89 Festy. I've been down this road but it runs great now.

[m715]

Aspire Engine

What I based this on is this engine, which still has its exhaust manifold that came out of a '96 or 7 Aspire IIRC. We installed it in this 1991 Festiva using the stock larger diameter pulleys off the original engine after losing a head gasket. We changed out the Intake and Pulleys, then bolted it in.

Michael

[rret]

engine oil pans...

to all - thx for your input - much appreciated.

i'm still in the process of swapping a '95 aspire engine into a '91 festiva.

i went to "recondition" the aspire engine's oil pan (it was very rusty) and while scraping the rust away, a small pinhole appeared. so i need a new pan. the pan from the '91 festy looks "smaller" in volume than the aspire's engine pan. is it okay to swap or should i buy a used aspire pan? to all who did the swap already, did you keep the larger aspire oil pan or did you swap the festiva's oil pan onto the aspire engine?
thx.

[FestYboy]

they'll swap block for block.

[toecar]

PU241........You off your meds again?
CHILL man...Chill.

[fastivaca]

Toecar, you realize this thread is more than 5 years old.