Need info on the tach swap

[m715]

This is the 1989

[doylerl]

I see what you mean... they are not very clear... but you did say that it was a bad cluster correct?

[m715]

It must have been. The original Std and the Orange face Tach clusters work fine on the car.

[Nickb1907]

so the white clusters have problems? Cause i perfer the look, but tonycash sold my cluster so i need to hunt another that probably wont be close to my odometer reading.

So how do you mod it to put the correct mileage in?

Thanks guys, a speedy reply would be nice since i bought alot of stuff from tony this morning and he will be shipping it tomorrow. I could add an orange cluster to it if i act fast.

[TominMO]

no need on mine. Mine is 2 bulb and is way to bright now. I have to keep it at the lowest setting while driving. I do have to turn it up to completely read the odometer but that is not an issue. I did use the 4 light bar one one of my clusters and it was REALLY bright. I also took out the colored plastic piece that covers the bulbs and that also helps.

I just discovered the colored plastic piece earlier today, on a spare non-tach cluster I had. Gonna take it off one of my running cars to see if there's a difference.

[GenevaDirt]

so the white clusters have problems? Cause i perfer the look, but tonycash sold my cluster so i need to hunt another that probably wont be close to my odometer reading.

So how do you mod it to put the correct mileage in?

Thanks guys, a speedy reply would be nice since i bought alot of stuff from tony this morning and he will be shipping it tomorrow. I could add an orange cluster to it if i act fast.

no problems with the clusters that I have ever had. If it is a 90's car...options or not...it will be plug and play. I have one in my 91 L model....no options what so ever and it works fine.

[Nickb1907]

any writeups on how to turn back or forward the OD? on white guaged

[sanjeet]

2) Is there a way to turn the mileage back without breaking anything?

The Jap imports that New Zealand seems to run on have heaps of problems with clocked speedo's ( winding them back ) and then charging the punters premium prices for vehicles that have travelled in the worst cases up to 300,000kms with about 80,000kms on the clock..... so it must be easy....when buying Jap imports they now supply a certificate guaranteeing no odometer tampering and that includes electronic versions as well.

[m715]

The orange faced clusters can be set to correct the mileage by removing a screw, pulling out a small gear, a circlip, rotating the drum to the correct mileage, then reversing procedure. Because I have changed all my L's to LX's, with the Tach clusters, I have always corrected the mileage on the odometer.
The White face clusters are made tamper proof. You dont have the screw hold down like the early ones. They are sealed and would require you to melt the barrel holding fixture enough to release it to set the mileage to correction. As I understand it, this has been done successfully, but it would be more difficult.

[Nickb1907]

so just got an orange cluster with 136K miles on it and mine is 162K so i need to change it. But whenever it was pulled the plastic turn in piece that holds the bulb broke so im thinking i can use my non tach cluster wiring and plug it in.

Anyway anyone try LED bulbs? And if so how many LEDs would work? Looking at this site

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR&cart_id=1390119.24682#WLED-x-x

[Nickb1907]

The orange faced clusters can be set to correct the mileage by removing a screw, pulling out a small gear, a circlip, rotating the drum to the correct mileage, then reversing procedure. Because I have changed all my L's to LX's, with the Tach clusters, I have always corrected the mileage on the odometer.
The White face clusters are made tamper proof. You dont have the screw hold down like the early ones. They are sealed and would require you to melt the barrel holding fixture enough to release it to set the mileage to correction. As I understand it, this has been done successfully, but it would be more difficult.

Okay so i have it in peices, i got the screw out, pulled the green gear, and i can rotate the grey wheel and it goes 1 mile every turn. But i need to go 32K miles meaning i would be turning for weeks.

The only thing i dont see is the "circlip" what is that and how do you remove it?

[doylerl]

Okay so i have it in peices, i got the screw out, pulled the green gear, and i can rotate the grey wheel and it goes 1 mile every turn. But i need to go 32K miles meaning i would be turning for weeks.

The only thing i dont see is the "circlip" what is that and how do you remove it?

Use a drill to turn it...

[Nickb1907]

Use a drill to turn it...

i dont see how unless the drill had a gear bit put in it? where would i get that?

[doylerl]

I was just kidding... I don't know, but I am sure there is an easier way than to sit there turning a gear for 32K miles...

[m715]

Pull the circlip that is on the end of the drum out, then CAREFULLY ease the individual number wheels that direction one at a time until they are free, and can be rotated to the correct number. After you have all the corrected numbers in place, reverse the process starting at the highest (100,000) to lowest numbers sliding them back until they engage. Then use a pair of needlenose to reinstall the circlip, slide the gear back into the body, move the other gear meshing it with the green one, the the metal retaner held by the screw.
You may have to play with it some to get the numbers to line up as they turn over so they stay straight. Just use some patience, and it gets easier now you have done it before.
When you go to mount your new cluster, dont forget to move your speedo cable from the center hole to the right side of the column reinforcement. Just pull it out toward the front of the car from the engine compartment side enough to move it over, then reverse that process. This is a good time to check your transaxle fluid too since the gear will be out. That is also your dipstick. Just don't use the tab on that adapter the has the bolt to pry on. It WILL snap off. If you run into trouble, let us know. It really isn't bad to do any of this after this first time.

Michael
The lighting is all interchangeable. 194 bulbs in all the 1/4 turn sockets on the printed board, # 73 in the top. You can try the LEDs too if you wish. Sam said he found strips of them at McParts stores.