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    Are there any tools specifically made to make removing an old tie rod end easier?

    I always have problems removing stock Festiva tie rod ends, and I had the same problem trying to remove a Kia Rio tie rod end so I could swipe the knuckle assembly.

    Karl
    '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
    '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
    '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
    '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
    '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

  • #2
    There is a puller you can get that separates the tie-rod end from the knuckle.
    '90 LX

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    • #3
      Or are you talking about just removing the tie-rod ends from the tie-rod itself. If thats the case just try some PB Buster and then two wrenchs to loosen the jam nut.
      '90 LX

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      • #4
        I had this problem with the blue car... I had tons of pb blaster on the jam nut and the tie rod end. Put two wrenches on there, had a pipe on the bottom one, rounded the jam nut. then put a vicescrip on the jam nut, and still wouldn't budge. I ended up welding the pivot ball to the tie rod assembly, and putting a pipe on the end of the tie rod, and then turning it.. (the nut for the tie rod rounded as well)
        -Josh R

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        • #5
          Yep, I'm talking about the tie rod end and jam nut point.

          I'll see about getting an extra long flare nut wrench for the jam nut and a huge crescent wrench for the tie rod end. After using lots of PB Blaster, of course.

          If there were a special tool that would be nice, though.

          Karl
          '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
          '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
          '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
          '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
          '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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          • #6
            You may have to use a LITTLE heat such as from a brazing tip. That's what the shop that has done my alignments used. Not getting the nut or end cherry red but just heated them with the brazing tip.

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            • #7
              I take it brazing tips go with full power torches?

              All I have is a propone torch.

              Karl
              '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
              '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
              '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
              '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
              '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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              • #8
                A propane torch will work.

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                • #9
                  Ah, then I will have to try my propane torch! At home, anyway. The PnP doesn't allow them I don't think.

                  Karl
                  '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
                  '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
                  '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
                  '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
                  '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Safety Guy View Post
                    Ah, then I will have to try my propane torch! At home, anyway. The PnP doesn't allow them I don't think.

                    Karl
                    Uh, Karl, you are just trying to get the hub free from the car?
                    You don't really want to reuse a tie rod end.
                    If that is the case, why not just pop the end attached to the hub free.
                    A little PB, back the castellated nut off till level with the treaded section, put a piece of wood or metal on the nut, give it a good whack with a hammer generally pops them off the hub.
                    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                    '92 Aqua parts Car
                    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                    Your holy ghost will not save you.
                    Your God plutonium will not save you.
                    In fact...
                    ...You will not be saved!"

                    Prince of Darkness -1987

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                    • #11
                      Yep, but my little junkyard hammer didn't do the trick. I also tried a loose brake drum and it didn't work either. Those things get stuck, don't they?

                      I have one "fork" for either ball joints or tie rod ends, but I didn't have that with me. I could take my big 3# hand sledge, I suppose.

                      Need...more...mass...for more IMPACT! (Or wedgie leverage.)

                      (No, I wouldn't likely reuse a tie rod end.)

                      However, on Twinstiva, I'll need to get the tie rod end off the car for the new one to fit Aspire knuckles. That WILL require loosening the "tie rod end/jam nut interface."

                      With Luxstiva, I took her to a shop that I was getting my alignment at and had them simply get that area loose for me before I started.

                      Karl
                      '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
                      '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
                      '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
                      '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
                      '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Safety Guy View Post
                        I'll see about getting an extra long flare nut wrench for the jam nut and a huge crescent wrench for the tie rod end. After using lots of PB Blaster, of course.
                        I think your chances of success would be greatly enhanced by thoroughly cleaning the area with a wire brush and then spraying with PB Blaster a couple of times a day for three or four days.

                        John Gunn
                        Coronado, CA
                        John Gunn
                        Coronado, CA

                        Improving anything
                        Improves everything. Copyright 2011 John Gunn

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                        • #13
                          John Gunn wrote:

                          "I think your chances of success would be greatly enhanced by thoroughly cleaning the area with a wire brush and then spraying with PB Blaster a couple of times a day for three or four days."

                          You mean like, "deferred gratification?"

                          Ah, maybe it's time for some fifteen foot long bolt cutters! :p

                          Karl
                          '93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
                          '91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
                          '92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
                          '93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
                          '89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Safety Guy View Post
                            You mean like, "deferred gratification?"
                            Some things are worth waiting for. But, mainly, for me it's a matter of letting my mind do the heavy lifting.

                            John Gunn
                            Coronado, CA
                            John Gunn
                            Coronado, CA

                            Improving anything
                            Improves everything. Copyright 2011 John Gunn

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                            • #15
                              ^x2 on the heat. Applying heat to a nut (or in this case tie rod end) makes it expand ever so slightly, making it easier to overcome the rust or whatever is making it stick.
                              John

                              91L 5-speed, RIP
                              89L 4-speed, teal/white
                              http://johnriederer.blogspot.com

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