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    Well today alone I've changed the distributor, changed the plugs/ wires...... everything I can think of, it's getting spark to the cap I know. cannot think of whatelse to do to get this car to start.... any suggestions? this Gremlin really has had a gremlin today....
    Andrew Walker

    Current Daily Driver:
    89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
    Projects in the works:
    84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

  • #2
    Are the spark plug wires in the correct order? And you probably messed with timing when changing the distributor.
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    • #3
      I based the firing order off of my mother's properly running festiva....
      Andrew Walker

      Current Daily Driver:
      89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
      Projects in the works:
      84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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      • #4
        Did you make sure You put the rotor back in right? It can go in three ways and it's easy too do so its worth a try.
        And someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can Put the dizzy in 180 degrees out pretty easily you might try that to
        1992 white L, Bp, American racing 13's, stock trans.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by 91mcnasty View Post
          Did you make sure You put the rotor back in right? It can go in three ways and it's easy too do so its worth a try.
          And someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can Put the dizzy in 180 degrees out pretty easily you might try that to
          Correct on the rotor, depending on design!
          Denso rotors tend to fit more precisely than after market.

          Incorrect on distributor, it is keyed/slotted to fit on only one way. But I'll bet the timing per individual disy is not exactly the same. So even a careful swap will like need at least a minor adjustment. That being said I wouldn't think it would be so far off that it wouldn't at least start. Provided it was running to begin with.
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          • #6
            it was running to begin with, are there any relays before the coil by chance? something that would cause it to produce a reddish yellow spark (when checking the coil) as opposed to the blue color it's supposed to produce if it's not pumping through the correct number of volts/amps
            Andrew Walker

            Current Daily Driver:
            89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
            Projects in the works:
            84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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            • #7
              Did you note the position of the old motor prior to pulling the distributor?

              I like to mark the old housing with a Sharper for the motor position as well as the housing to the motor. Then I try to transpose those marks to the replacement.
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              • #8
                Weak coil would be my guess. There is an ignition module right next to it just a bit bigger than a postage stamp. If you have a known good one you might try it and see.
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                • #9
                  yes.... I checked the coil as well and it was a yellowish color, all my other cars typically have a bluish color coming from their coil (providing they're running correctly) so that leads me to believe that it's not getting enough power to the coil??? it putts like it's trying to fire on one cylinder ever couple of rotations.... any ideas? I hope I'm not talking completely in some alien language...
                  Andrew Walker

                  Current Daily Driver:
                  89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
                  Projects in the works:
                  84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kartracer46 View Post
                    Weak coil would be my guess. There is an ignition module right next to it just a bit bigger than a postage stamp. If you have a known good one you might try it and see.
                    I think I know what you're talking about, any chance you have a picture of it anywhere? I might, I had a spare coil, so I'm sure if I keep digging I might find the module provided I can get a positive identity on it
                    Andrew Walker

                    Current Daily Driver:
                    89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
                    Projects in the works:
                    84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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                    • #11
                      If it was running before, why did you replace all this stuff? Just wondering if it wasn't a problem that was there before replacing all this stuff, and the new parts just didn't help it.
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                      • #12
                        It would run, but would quit under load (i.e.: would NOT pull a hill, even a tiny one, if it got warmed up)
                        Andrew Walker

                        Current Daily Driver:
                        89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
                        Projects in the works:
                        84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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                        • #13
                          Fuel pressure? Check it.

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                          • #14
                            will do....
                            Andrew Walker

                            Current Daily Driver:
                            89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
                            Projects in the works:
                            84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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                            • #15
                              http://www.flickr.com/photos/62870541@N05/5720375193/ could this cause the problems I'm having it says "Power Module" and it's located right next to the coil?
                              Andrew Walker

                              Current Daily Driver:
                              89 Nissan D21 SE V6 5 speed 4x4
                              Projects in the works:
                              84 Mercedes Benz 300D(T)(Baby) currently awaiting transmission transplant/ full on restoration

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