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    Help! LCA to knuckle problem

    I'm trying to put new disc rotors on the Festiva. This job has given me fits from the very start.
    My problem:

    I have removed the pinch bolt from the knuckle side on the LCA to drop the LCA joint, have it popped loose with a seperator bar, but the stud will NOT come out of the hole!.
    It is loose, I can pry down on the stabilizer/LCA, and the LCA pivot stud moves down almost an inch, but that is all. It will go no further. I can see the stud when I pry it down. It feels like something is stopping it from coming further, but there is nothing I see that would stop it. I have been prying with crow bars, pry bars to no avail. The stud will not come completely out of the hole.
    What is causing this?

    In all my searching, I saw no one mention this. I am working on it now.
    Thanks in advance,
    Dan
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  • #2
    Soak with PB Blaster and tap it lightly with a hammer, to set up vibration to break it loose. That's what I would try first.
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    • #3
      5lb sledge. keep the strut bolts mounted and smack the LCA. it will pop.
      89L build thread http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36422

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      • #4
        It IS loose already. Read my post. It is loose, will not come completely out of the hole and I tried calling you Tom.
        Turn your phone on.
        Last edited by drddan; 07-06-2011, 08:48 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by drddan View Post
          It IS loose already. Read my post. It is loose, will not come out of the hole and I tried calling you Tom.
          Read my post, Use a hammer. a pry bar isnt going to do anything! Why do people ask for help and then not try what is mentioned?
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          • #6
            I have used a BFH. It has been seperated with a tie rod seperator. The stud is loose in the hole. It will come down 1 inch. No further. It feels like something SOLID is stopping it from going further. How can I explain it better?
            I read posts on this and listened to advice, am using that advice. It is so solid, it is beating up the LCA to use a hammer. I can however pry it down an inch with the pry bars, but it is like hitting something that is stopping it from coming completely out of the hole.
            I am mech inclined, worked on many a car and rigged many a car. This has me baffled.
            Last edited by drddan; 07-06-2011, 08:57 PM.
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            • #7
              As already said, while prying down on the arm hit the arm downward with a hammer, it will come out. some are just stubborn, show it who's boss.

              The reason it is stopping is just the angles of the arm, balljoint stud and knuckle binding a bit, smack it shouldn't take to much actually.
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              • #8
                Try loosening the LCA mounting bolts in the body. This makes it way easier to pry down on tough ones by reducing some of the bind of the bushings. I've had one that I had to remove the sway bar but the front was kinda hinky from a collision.

                Sometimes you just gotta get a bigger bar and get mean with it.
                Last edited by Zanzer; 07-06-2011, 08:58 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zanzer View Post
                  Try loosening the LCA mounting bolts in the body. This makes it way easier to pry down on tough ones.

                  Sometimes you just gotta get a bigger bar and get mean with it.
                  I almost pulled the car off the jacks! Been mean with it already. I'm takin a break, my veins are bulging in my forehead.
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                  • #10
                    OK, solution #2

                    Drive a chisel into the split of the knuckle where the joint and pinch bolt attaches to help open it up a little.
                    If a hammer doesn't fix it you have an electrical problem




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                    • #11
                      Done that, it is loose. Just wont come down far enuf to clear the bore of the hole. Stud is what 1 1/2 - 2 inches long? It is coming down an inch only.
                      Dan




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                      Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
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                      • #12
                        I will try loosening the body to LCA bolt to see if that helps, like you suggested. I also tried jacking up the knucle assm and prying to see if the LCA had run out of travel in the down positon since it was hanging down. That didnt help either.
                        Last edited by drddan; 07-06-2011, 09:07 PM.
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                        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                        R.I.P.
                        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                        Silver 1988 Festiva L

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                        • #13
                          Hmmm.....hate to say it but maybe remove the sway bar and LCA completely. Had to do this on an Aspire that we were fighting with in the JY and then the dang thing just fell off. Like it was in a weird bind or something with the sway bar and LCA bolted up. All we could do was laugh at that point
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                          • #14
                            That sounds like what might be happening. It feels so SOLID. Pull the LCA stud down and it not only feels like it is hitting something, you can hear it hit too. Pulls down easy till that point.
                            Dan




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                            Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                            I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                            R.I.P.
                            Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                            Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                            Silver 1988 Festiva L

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                            • #15
                              I had one on an 88 LX a while back that the stud was pretty chewed up as if it had been spinning in the knuckle. I also noticed that someone had replaced the bolt...which could have been either part of the problem or an attempt at a solution. I'm just wondering if you're seeing something similar?

                              The Aspire I spoke of was a bear. 2 guys at 250lbs each and it was whipping us. After we dropped the sway bar and LCA body bolts the dang thing just fell on the ground! Talk about emasculating !!! We just laughed and said "good enough, at least it's off".

                              I've removed many lower ball joints/LCAs and I've never seen one as mean as that Aspire one.
                              Last edited by Zanzer; 07-06-2011, 09:19 PM.
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