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  • #1

    B6/Festy 5 spd clutch options?

    I have a B6, mating to a Festy 5 spd, with the Festy flywheel on the B6.
    My question is:
    Will a clutch from a 323 B6, fit on the Festy flywheel?

    I like the bigger dia of the B6 clutch (7.50 vs the festy 7.12)

    Thanks, as always guys!

    (deciding which clutch to get, so I can order one)

    Looking at Exedy, Borg-Warner, or Luk, right now.
    Last edited by drddan; 05-02-2012, 08:05 PM.
    Dan




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  • #2
    As far as I know you can't mix and match F, E, or G series clutches, so no, but I might be wrong
    Owner of:
    1991 Red Festiva L, 5 speed (Swagger Wagon)
    In progress:
    BP+G25MR swap, Kia rio axles hopefully.

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    • #3
      Any of the e/f/g flywheels will bolt to any b series motor, you want to use the clutch for the transmission your using, think about the starter position too. From what I understand, none of the clutches/flywheel combos interchange without serious machining work.
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      • #4
        Good to know.

        I do know the teeth count on the 323 B6 flywheel is 20 and the Festy B3 is 18.

        I will just get the Festy clutch then.

        Thanks, that all was very helpful.
        Dan




        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

        R.I.P.
        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
        Silver 1988 Festiva L

        My Music!
        http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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        • #5
          The Festiva clutch will hold just fine for your B6, no need to worry about that.
          Im not driving a Festiva because I'm poor. I drive a Festiva because i want to!

          Dennis
          93 L Advancedynamics suspension mod, awaiting B6 swap
          91 GL B6 sohc, currently in the hands of DAE undergoing top secret work. Soon to be cable G, with stage 3 F1 Kevlar clutch... To be continued
          93 GL In progress BP/hydro G
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          • #6
            Originally posted by gauge_half_inch View Post
            The Festiva clutch will hold just fine for your B6, no need to worry about that.
            True, but better off to get a Stage 1 pressure plate for the Festy clutch. With advanced timing and a cat-delete, my B6 is making about 95+ crank HP. That might be at or just over the limit for a stock Festy clutch (with stock pressure plate). But I could see that the stock setup would be fine for a B6 with a cat and no extra advance.

            The first sign would be slipping in higher gears. When my B6 was turboed but still had a cat (which was probably partially clogged), the Festy clutch w/Stage 1 p.p. would slip in fifth. After adding the cat-delete, it then slipped in fourth and even third! Showing how much more power was freed up.
            90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
            09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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            • #7
              You're pretty much stuck with the Festy clutch if you're using the festy trans. If you don't do much side-stepping the clutch or hard launches, a quality stock replacement like Exedy should hold up fine. If you want to give it a little extra insurance, you can upgrade the p.plate to a stage 1 or better. Make sure you deglaze the flywheel or have it resurfaced. To provide the best possible grip. If guys are using the stock clutch behind a BP, it should take a stock B6....if its functioning correctly.
              Brian

              93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
              04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
              62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

              1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
              Not enough time or money for any of them

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              • #8
                Just found this on the bay. Stage 1- Good price!

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bahnhof-Stag...b58362&vxp=mtr
                Dan




                Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                R.I.P.
                Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                Silver 1988 Festiva L

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                • #9
                  ^ Anybody know about Bahnhof clutches?

                  Back in the day, (late 70's-80's,when I used to race/build) I had heard of Bahnhof. Never heard bad about them. I had a few Zoom clutches and a few Mcleod clutches.
                  Mcleod was decent, but I burned up a couple Zoom's.

                  I also heard of some Spec clutches, having Luk parts in them.
                  Clutches may be like cars, as in, having one name on them, and being built or have parts from other makers.
                  Isn't Bahnhof a German company?
                  Last edited by drddan; 05-04-2012, 04:52 PM.
                  Dan




                  Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                  Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                  I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                  R.I.P.
                  Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                  Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                  Silver 1988 Festiva L

                  My Music!
                  http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                  • #10
                    I did some searching on the web. Several people on various Ranger, Neon, Cavalier and other sites asked the same questions. Very little experienced people, but the few that had used them said they held up pretty good. For the price, I may join you in purchasing one............You go first and let me know, LOL.
                    Brian

                    93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
                    04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
                    62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

                    1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
                    Not enough time or money for any of them

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blkfordsedan View Post
                      I did some searching on the web. Several people on various Ranger, Neon, Cavalier and other sites asked the same questions. Very little experienced people, but the few that had used them said they held up pretty good. For the price, I may join you in purchasing one............You go first and let me know, LOL.
                      Ha Ha! You so funny!

                      ...but, I might just take the plunge

                      EDIT: I read those same threads, too!

                      Hard to find any solid info on Bahnhof ...and why I asked here.
                      I did find a Racing site that promoted them, but they were selling them, too, so, they might be a little biased
                      Last edited by drddan; 05-04-2012, 06:37 PM.
                      Dan




                      Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                      Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                      I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                      R.I.P.
                      Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                      Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                      Silver 1988 Festiva L

                      My Music!
                      http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                      • #12
                        Here is a place I found that gave a good description of the Bahnhof clutch

                        http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/BAHNH...591026428.html
                        Dan




                        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                        R.I.P.
                        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                        Silver 1988 Festiva L

                        My Music!
                        http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                        • #13
                          ^^ When I went to that site, I got a notification that an attack was blocked! Beware.
                          90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                          09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                          You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                          Disaster preparedness

                          Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                          Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                          • #14
                            I got it too, but it was blocked!

                            Good virus protection is a must!


                            Still sucks to see that. :nono:
                            Dan




                            Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                            Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                            I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                            R.I.P.
                            Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                            Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                            Silver 1988 Festiva L

                            My Music!
                            http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                            • #15
                              Okay, some Bahnhof clutch info...without any threats to it
                              A few reviews at the bottom

                              http://clutchkitsparts.com/bahnhof-clutch-kit.html
                              Last edited by drddan; 05-05-2012, 09:11 AM.
                              Dan




                              Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                              Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                              I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                              R.I.P.
                              Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                              Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                              Silver 1988 Festiva L

                              My Music!
                              http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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