I just torque the axel nut and back it off till it doesn't drag. :p
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2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
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Originally posted by WmWatt View PostMovin: I wonder about that technique because when I replaced my bearings and torqued the axle nut the wheel was really stiff until I put the tire back on a drove up and down the driveway. Seems the weight of the car seats the bearings? How would I compensate for that in the test?
You are required to torque the nut to 145 ft lbs. Then when you install the assembly on the vehicle and install the axle. You then torque the nut to 116-174 ft lbs. You will notice that setup torque is exactly in the middle of final install range!
Yep,there is quite a few details to this assembly that we dont always adhere to.I've pointed out this wide "Range" before.Hoping that someone could give me a definitive answer as to why....But understandably know one has really nailed it down.
PS WmWatt-We'll be doing an Aspire swap on my sons Festy this summer. You're welcome to his knuckles/spacers/hubs.When we complete it. Peace-Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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Originally posted by zoom zoom View PostI just torque the axel nut and back it off till it doesn't drag. :p
Not in any way meaning to discount the technical processes and the mechanics who use them but these cars are all over the 'Third World' where the only torque wrench may be in the head despot's palace.
Great thread.
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Originally posted by CharlieZ View PostYou may be on to something here!!!
Not in any way meaning to discount the technical processes and the mechanics who use them but these cars are all over the 'Third World' where the only torque wrench may be in the head despot's palace.
Great thread.
So what might work in a 3rd world car prolly wont sufice to my abuse. I have the Festy Tranny in it. So I drive 75-80 mph on the highway.Unless I get stuck behind the Highway PatrolSome people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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I'd be willing to bet the assembly torque is just to ensure the bearings are fully pressed, then when it's on your car you torque it back down to get a fresh squish on the bearings.
The first time I replaced a front bearing, I didn't replace the races or anything, I just pulled the inner bearing off, the bearing actually fell out, punched the new one on, and couldn't figure out what "seal" they were talking about, so the new "race" ended up going on in the seals place. The car ran like that for 30-35k miles/2 years including trips from ohio to tennesse and maine without an issue. I replaced the axel later and realized my mistake, after I had time to learn a little more about the car, so fresh bearings and seals were put in.
Pretorquing fresh bearings is pretty much a MUST, imo, after that you just want to torque it a little more than you did the last time to get a fresh crush on them, then back it off.Last edited by zoom zoom; 05-14-2012, 06:18 PM.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
"If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"
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Originally posted by zoom zoom View PostPretorquing fresh bearings is pretty much a MUST, imo, after that you just want to torque it a little more than you did the last time to get a fresh crush on them, then back it off.Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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My torque wrench only goes up to 150 and that's about as much as I can manage with all 150 lb of me bearing down on a 3' length of pipe on the socket driver. Mathematically I should be able to get more with that arrangement.Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.
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