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  • How do you remove second bolt on thermostat housing?

    I have an 88 LX, cant seem to figure out how to get the bottom bolt out of the housing to change the thermostat... the two metal pipes that run from the exhaust to the intake seem to get in the way, I can't get a socket with an extension in there. Do I really have to take those off? They seem like they might be frozen on and this seems like there must be some trick to it that is not obvious to me?
    Oldest Festiva on the forum (so far) 3/87 LX - 225k
    89 Tracer 13" alloys and dome light. Pioneer stereo, all else is stock.

  • #2
    I use a 12mm Gearwrench. A regular 12mm box will do, but takes longer.
    90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
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    • #3
      People have frequently broken these bolts off in the head. If the bolt has seized, you may be in trouble already.
      If all goes well and you get the bolts out OK, search the threads for advice about how to not crack the housing when you go to put it back on.
      The new thermostat can fall between the housing and the head and cause the housing to crack when you try to tighten the bolts.
      Last edited by 1990new; 10-29-2013, 05:30 PM.

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      • #4
        Little but of rtv or grease to hold tstat in place does the trick

        As far as the Bolt I use a deep socket and a racket that reaches up under that bracket.
        Last edited by eurotiva; 10-29-2013, 05:39 PM.
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        • #5
          hmm this all sounds super fun. looks like this is going to have to wait until I have a spare housing just in case.
          Oldest Festiva on the forum (so far) 3/87 LX - 225k
          89 Tracer 13" alloys and dome light. Pioneer stereo, all else is stock.

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          • #6
            some PB Blaster and a propane torch should do the trick here. soak the bolt area with the BP and then hit that area with the torch and warm it. then work the bolt back and forth to break down whatever corrosion that's built up.
            Trees aren't kind to me...

            currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
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            • #7
              Try breaking off the temp sensor in your bp an then finding out that your friend put jb weld in it when you were looking and thought that was helping lol
              -90 festiva - bp swap "relentless" (thanks matt) aspire swap, pacesetter, underdrive pulley
              -90 festiva - surf blue (undetermined destiny) wanna keep but wifey says noooooooo

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              • #8
                I also used a 12mm gearwrench going from the back side.
                93 GL

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                • #9
                  Sounds like his issue is simply access to the bolt, not it being stuck due to corrosion.

                  If you're careful, you won't break the T-stat housing. Good advice about using grease or rtv to keep the T-stat from slipping down. I'd recommend just installing the two bolts loosely until they are completely seated, so you know the T-stat stayed in place. Then snug 'em down.
                  90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                  09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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                  Disaster preparedness

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                  • #10
                    i would also advise to clean the bolt holes out the best you can to ensure a nice smooth seal and threading on the bolt-up
                    Ford Festiva 1991 WA Model (5 Door)
                    Nicknamed the car 'The Chiva' (Chilli Festiva)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jawbraeka View Post
                      i would also advise to clean the bolt holes out the best you can to ensure a nice smooth seal and threading on the bolt-up
                      Right, and I forgot to mention using anti-seize.
                      90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                      09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                      You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                      Disaster preparedness

                      Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                      Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                      • #12
                        Plain old fashioned open end wrench and a bit of manual dexterity.
                        Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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                        • #13
                          B6T head but with B3 parts. Mine was one stud one bolt, don't know about B3's. M8x1.25 I believe is the thread pitch and length. My first photo is of my throttle body rebuild, but you get the idea of what these threads can look like before and after you clean them up. I stuffed a rag inside the head, and went to town with a wire brush and razor blade before finishing it off with some high grit sandpaper. Like Eurotiva, I too used RTV silicone to secure the thermostat in place before buttoning everything back up. One important thing to note is that I opted to use RTV exclusively and no gasket because I had already snapped two housings and was frustrated. I tightened them up in two steps... semi-tight, and then oozing point tight. Clean it all up when you're done, give it some time/heat-gun to set/dry, and then put everything back together. Good as new!

                          1988 Chevy Sprint Turbo 997cc

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