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    got water in my headlight housing, how can I remove the water from the housing?
    Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

    Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

    Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
    it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

    Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

    TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
    bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

    '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

    SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

    R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

    R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


    R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

    R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

    R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

  • #2
    I assume you mean you Festiva headlight and not your Aspire headlight.

    The glass lens is attached to the steel headlight assembly with a silicone
    seal and the bulb unit that is inserted into the back of the assembly has
    a ring seal. these seals are supposed to keep moisture out of the headlight
    assembly. If it's the lens seal that let the water in, you should probably
    replace the entire assembly. I have never replaced a headlight lens myself.
    To get all the water out, you will need to remove the headlight assembly,
    remove the bulb and drain it out the hole where the bulb goes in.
    there are 4 bolts that hold the assembly in place.
    Your will need to remove the marker light and the grille to get to
    the bolts. If on the right, remove the vac box; If on the left remove
    the battery to gain easier access.
    Last edited by 1990new; 01-26-2014, 07:59 PM.

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    • #3
      1. suck it up a long clear hose, but stop a few inches from the top.
      pur your thumb over the end of the hose, pull it out and remove your thumb.
      repeat until no more water.
      2. drill a small hole on the bottom

      I just saved you buying a new headlight.

      Besides, Pride headlights from Korea are a different shape than our headlights.
      Last edited by bravekozak; 01-26-2014, 08:27 PM.

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      • #4
        I drilled discrete 3/16" drain holes in the bottom of some of my soggy ones. Ideally you want to reseal the glass/metal joint before the reflective surface inside corrodes, or replace the entire unit. The lamps come out fairly quick if you remove the corner lamps first. Release the headlight spring using a needlenose vicegrip and pry the upper headlight adjuster screw off the light frame. Then merely pull the entire assembly out from the engagement at the side headlight adjuster screw. Obviously you're going to have to deal with the plastic ring and bulb connector while you're at it. Leaking headlight units are a common Festy problem and replacements are not cheap. First thing I check on derelict Festys is for good headlamps and in scavenging 4 cars so far have not found even one. If bravekozak reads this he might be able to fill us in on how much FourGreen in Korea charges for these. Otherwise anything under $100 is cheap.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 1990new View Post
          I assume you mean you Festiva headlight and not your Aspire headlight.

          The glass lens is attached to the steel headlight assembly with a silicone
          seal and the bulb unit that is inserted into the back of the assembly has
          a ring seal. these seals are supposed to keep moisture out of the headlight
          assembly. If it's the lens seal that let the water in, you should probably
          replace the entire assembly. I have never replaced a headlight lens myself.
          To get all the water out, you will need to remove the headlight assembly,
          remove the bulb and drain it out the hole where the bulb goes in.
          there are 4 bolts that hold the assembly in place.
          Your will need to remove the marker light and the grille to get to
          the bolts. If on the right, remove the vac box; If on the left remove
          the battery to gain easier access.
          That's doing it the hard way! I take off the corner lamp, use a narrow vicegrip to release the headlamp spring, pry the top adjuster screw out from the slotted mount and then pull the entire unit out from where it's held in place by the side adjuster screw. Only takes a minute or two once you've done it a few times. The aim will not have been changed either as long as you don't turn the adjuster screws while you're in there.

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          • #6
            Sounds like your light fluid got low allowing water to take its place... I had this happen once
            1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
            R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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            • #7
              Looks like you got better advice from the folks up North who experience this problem often.
              I've owned 6 Festiva's since 1990 (still have 3 of them) and I have never had this problem.

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              • #8
                Mine was from bad bulb seals and plowing through water but just removing the whole light and tiping it over gets the water out quick
                1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
                R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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                • #9
                  If you take off the corner lamp and grille, there's only four bolts holding the assembly in. To each his own
                  -Zack
                  Blue '93 GL Auto: White 13" 5 Point Wheels, Full LED Conversion, and an 8" Sub

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                  • #10
                    I find perfect lights at the yard quite often. I have 2 sets in the garage. Never seems to be any interest Lol.
                    91 Festiva L "Erika" b3t swap on the way
                    06 Jeep Cherokee Overland
                    95 Aspire (sold)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1990new View Post
                      I assume you mean you Festiva headlight and not your Aspire headlight.
                      yes, it's Whitie III

                      Originally posted by Bert View Post
                      I drilled discrete 3/16" drain holes in the bottom of some of my soggy ones. Ideally you want to reseal the glass/metal joint before the reflective surface inside corrodes, or replace the entire unit. The lamps come out fairly quick if you remove the corner lamps first. Release the headlight spring using a needlenose vicegrip and pry the upper headlight adjuster screw off the light frame. Then merely pull the entire assembly out from the engagement at the side headlight adjuster screw. Obviously you're going to have to deal with the plastic ring and bulb connector while you're at it. Leaking headlight units are a common Festy problem and replacements are not cheap. First thing I check on derelict Festys is for good headlamps and in scavenging 4 cars so far have not found even one. If bravekozak reads this he might be able to fill us in on how much FourGreen in Korea charges for these. Otherwise anything under $100 is cheap.
                      the inside is already badly rusted from all the water, was like this from the PO, might just drill holes in the bottom of the headlight housing..... unless somebody has a passenger side housing for cheap? My local NAPA wants 195.95 minus shipping and tax it's the only place I can get one without having to drive 250+ miles to get to the closest junkyard with a Festiva.....
                      Last edited by old yellow; 01-27-2014, 12:09 AM.
                      Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

                      Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

                      Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
                      it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

                      Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

                      TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
                      bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

                      '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

                      SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

                      R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

                      R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


                      R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

                      R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

                      R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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                      • #12
                        I use a very small 1/16" drill bit. Pull the headlamp assembly off the car. On the under side of the light fixture drill 2 holes. The water will evaporate soon and you shouldn't have any other problems.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chobobulous View Post
                          I find perfect lights at the yard quite often. I have 2 sets in the garage. Never seems to be any interest Lol.
                          You lucky sods don't have salt spray, annual 4 months of freeze/thaw nor temperature extremes to deal with. I've gone through 6 replacements over the past 10 years and 3 others that stared to fog up now have drain holes in them. Should you stumble across a nice clean pair sometime I don't mind sending you $100 for your trouble. The housing is not required just the pot and glass that is held by the adjuster screws and the tension spring. I still have 4-5 spares but the seals on these units ain't improving with age either. Please pipe up bravekozak and give us some idea of how much FourGreen charges for these.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bert View Post
                            You lucky sods don't have salt spray, annual 4 months of freeze/thaw nor temperature extremes to deal with. I've gone through 6 replacements over the past 10 years and 3 others that stared to fog up now have drain holes in them. Should you stumble across a nice clean pair sometime I don't mind sending you $100 for your trouble. The housing is not required just the pot and glass that is held by the adjuster screws and the tension spring. I still have 4-5 spares but the seals on these units ain't improving with age either. Please pipe up bravekozak and give us some idea of how much FourGreen charges for these.
                            Use this link:
                            http://www.fourgreen.com/store/scrip...ld=description

                            to see all parts listed under Huyndai/Kia Pride on the FourGreen site.

                            Here are the parts and prices listed there as LAMP ASSY-HEAD. There are no pictures for any of them so I don't
                            know which part number is the one for our Festivas or if they have any of them in stock.


                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,LH KK12A51040 $91.67
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,LH KK13551040, KK13651040 $91.67
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,LH KK15051040A, KK15051040 $57.62
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,LH KK15151040A $66.00
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,RH KK12A51030 $91.67
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,RH KK13551030, KK13651030 $91.67
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,RH KK15051030A, KK15051030 $57.62
                            LAMP ASSY-HEAD,RH KK15151030A $66.00
                            Last edited by 1990new; 01-27-2014, 12:38 PM.

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                            • #15
                              doesn't the Pride have different headlights?
                              Doug's Daily Driver (Dad): '91 Ford Festiva L Manual "Old Yellow" got with 40,xxx mi... about 52,xxx mi. give or take now

                              Austin's Daily Driver (mine) : '91 Ford Festiva GL Automatic "Whitie III" W/ 0.40 over aspire engine from '94 Aspire "New Blue" rebuilt 92,xxx mi. then... about 96,xxx mi. or more now (on body)

                              Doug's work car: '95 Ford Aspire Manual "Whitie II" w/ swapped stock aspire engine from '95 Silver Aspire and has
                              it's 5th transmission! 75,xxx mi... now with about 130,xxx mi.

                              Sold! '89 Ford Festiva Manual "Gaystiva" (sold to my Uncle) - got with 163,xxx..... now 163,xxx Sold!

                              TRANSFERRED! '89 Ford Festiva Automatic EFI "one hit wonder" Given to
                              bolokid - got with 210,xxx ...... now with 210,xxx miles TRANSFERRED!

                              '94 Ford Aspire SE Manual "Assfire" - got with at least 350,000 mi

                              SOLD! '90 Ford Festiva L Manual look for Narion (or click the username) it's new owner on the forum! - got with 193,xxx miles... now has 193,xxx miles give or take SOLD!

                              R.I.P '91 Ford Escort GT w/ bad engine..... stripping for parts then off to the scrapper!

                              R.I.P '91 Ford Festiva Manual "Lil Red Rocket" bought brand new in 1991 with ~120 mi... ended with 227,xxx mi.


                              R.I.P '97 Ford Aspire 4 Door Automatic "Ford Metro" parts car - got with about 144,xxx mi.... ended with 144,xxx mi

                              R.I.P '95 Ford Aspire Manual Silver (one owner and one family car) got with about 50,000 miles ended with about 90,000 miles

                              R.I.P '94 Ford Aspire Manual "New Blue" got with 150,xxx.... ended with about 200,xxx (it's engine is the .40 engine in my GL)

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