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    When I failed to use lock tight on the fly wheel bolts they backed out while driving and made a huggggee mess so now most of the threads on the crank shaft are ether kinda stripped or screwed up whats the next bolt size up I can retap them to the are 12mm by 1.25 thread pitch I beleave could I just go to 1/2" bolts and just tap right down with out drilling since it's between 12mm and 13mm?

    From experience whats the easiest way of fixing this quick? I got red lock tight not recommended but I want to over do it
    1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
    R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

  • #2
    You are supposed to use Locktite on the flywheel bolts?

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    • #3
      Yea blue lock tight is recommended I was told its in the festiva bible (Hanes manual) but any thang that important it's kinda helpful to have little more protection
      1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
      R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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      • #4
        You going to take the crank out of the block to drill and tap it or just let the metal shavings go in the oil pan?

        I don't think the flywheel bolts are a common size thread, they're super fine pitch, but yea i suppose if you have to, moving up to a 1/2" would be the next smallest step up. You'll be forced to use the standard fine thread pitch, I haven't seen a standard size bolt with metric threads...might work tho? Keep us posted!
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        • #5
          I'll do it my self cuz I am going to change the oil any ways but I'll put a magnet on the out side as I retap it to keep as much out of the oil as possible and I'll see what my local ford dealership has in stock for 1/2" fly wheel bolts so I know what thread to retap it with but I guess if it works it could help y'all out if you ever needed to do this haha

          But I may end up just using grade 8 bolts as a last resort since my car still has the stock tranny and that will go before the bolts do I'm hooding but I'll let you guys know tomorrow what I end up doing thanks for the info!
          1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
          R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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          • #6
            Check with a local engine rebuilder and see if this is even recommended (I'm thinking not) because this gets into all kinds of issues. Those metal chips will reek havok on the oil pump, and if any bypass the oil filter, also crank & bearings. A low quality tap may break in the crank and there may not be enough metal there for strength or space anyway. If the bolts are not too loose in the full thread length, it may be possible to clean up the threads with a thread chaser (not a tap which removes too much damaged thread), but it may have to enter from the internal side because of damage to the threads. I can't recall the size of the pressure plate bolts, but here are some dimensions if you need them: [6mm=.23622In] [8mm=.31496In] [10mm=.39370In] [12mm=.47244In] [14mm=.55118In] [16mm=.62992In] - [5/16"=.312500"=7.9375mm] [3/8"=.37500"=9.5250mm] [7/16"=.437500"=11.1125mm] [1/2'=.5"=12.700mm] [9/16"=.562500"=14.2875mm] [5/8"=.62500"=15.8750mm] and they're much easier to follow if you list them like a chart.
            Last edited by tooldude; 05-29-2014, 01:47 AM. Reason: Added dimensions
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            • #7
              I don't think the crank bolts go all the way through the crank, how would shavings get into the oil? Or do they?

              Either way, it's really not something I would attempt in-car. The flywheels center on the crank hub, they don't rely on the bolts for alignment, but I really wouldn't chance it.

              Probably would want to go up one size in metric rather than SAE, so you can have correct thread depth
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              • #8
                Take the flywheel off and tip the motor sideways and oil will pour out the holes!!
                2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoom zoom View Post
                  Take the flywheel off and tip the motor sideways and oil will pour out the holes!!
                  True dat^. Or use Manuel flywheel bolts on an auto flex , and lock the crank lol
                  New build on the way .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Micro Mudder View Post
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                    hey i noticed in your signature that you have a 1 ton "wench"....
                    have you tried putting her on a diet yet? :p
                    Last edited by rmoltis; 05-29-2014, 10:00 AM.
                    Running 40psi.....in my tires.



                    http://aspire.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=611&st=0

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                    • #11
                      Hey thanks guys for the heads up ill defiantly try your ideas before mine cuz I'm just shooting in the dark! I hope it won't end up being a week long project..

                      It's an ATV wench and No I haven't put it on a diet it's gotten a fue hundred lbs fatter I'll weigh it when I get it on the road again.. I been looking at a 12ton one at the cheep tool store I forgot the name.. But it's like $300
                      1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
                      R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Micro Mudder View Post
                        Hey thanks guys for the heads up ill defiantly try your ideas before mine cuz I'm just shooting in the dark! I hope it won't end up being a week long project..

                        It's an ATV wench and No I haven't put it on a diet it's gotten a fue hundred lbs fatter I'll weigh it when I get it on the road again.. I been looking at a 12ton one at the cheep tool store I forgot the name.. But it's like $300
                        the definition of wench is from old times "a young girl or woman".
                        so when i saw 1 ton wench i thought it may be your woman .
                        just playing of course.

                        what you have on your vehicle is a "Winch"

                        your vehicle weighs under a ton already.
                        I bet what you have works great for your application.
                        Last edited by rmoltis; 05-29-2014, 11:10 AM.
                        Running 40psi.....in my tires.



                        http://aspire.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=611&st=0

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                        • #13
                          Haha I never knew that I guess it would help if I spelled correctly but it works okay it weighs a lot more when caked in mud

                          I retaped the crankshaft with a fine thread 1/2 and it works perfict so far I got them all torqued down with red lock tight just cleaning stuff up now to get it dropped back in my festy to hear her purr again
                          1993 festy "white stallion" BP swap with 7" lift, 1ton wench
                          R.I.P. 1991 festy "the festiva" stock b3, atv bumper, 8' whip

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                          • #14
                            nice, hope it all goes smoothly
                            Running 40psi.....in my tires.



                            http://aspire.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=611&st=0

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                            • #15
                              That's great that worked out for you. I would have to be "hands on" to try to judge whether something like that would work out. It's good to know what can be done to these cars. Were the threads had to cut?
                              When I'm good I'm very, very good and when I'm bad I'm HORRID.

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