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  • #16
    I've used Rust Check from Canadian Tire applied with a paint brush. It's okay but pricey. I've used a couple of other things with phosphoric acid in them in different concentrations based on the number of coats it takes to convert the rust. Not impressed with any of them but they help. Getting as much rust off with abrasives works best with the rust converter for the places which can't be reached with abrasive. I've collected a random assortment of wire brushes, files, rasps, and grinding wheels of various shapes and sizes from garage sales over the years. Stone grinding wheels on an electric drill are fastest in my experience. Then a couple of coats of rust paint worked in well with a stiff brush, followed by a couple of coats of polyurethane paint for a durable, scratch-resistant surface. I give the rust paint 3 days to cure before applying polyurethane. Polyurethane takes a while to cure completely but since the surface is not being used for anything it's okay to drive the car while it cures. I also top coat bicycle frames with polyurehtane. It stays soft for a long time but by the second cycling season when it's fully cured it makes a tough surface.
    Last edited by WmWatt; 07-11-2014, 12:42 PM.
    Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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    • #17
      If it were mine I would definitely cut out ALL the rust, take q grinding disk and go out until the metal is perfectly shiny and clean.. no black pitting in it, that's rust on the backside of the panel that will come through
      . Matter of time. If that upper piece is gone far enough it'd be faster just to salve a good one off another car and weld it on where the factory spot welds are, definitely use weld through primer and undercoat backside of new panel where you can. Rust never sleeps, I don't trust converters personally.. band aid, metal is weaker anyway if rust is eating it and you can't get everything.

      Just my thoughts, I do rust repair occassionally at work, mostly qhole rockers and cb corners. Id rather go all out doing it once, then risk shortcutting somewhere and it coming back
      -93' L BP swap/e-series, coilovers, RIO front swap, redrilled festy drums, Miata 14" 7 spokes.
      -88' Mazda 323 SE, work in progress..
      -85' Nissan Sentra 5 spd.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Festiva_Fred View Post
        If it were mine I would definitely cut out ALL the rust, take q grinding disk and go out until the metal is perfectly shiny and clean.. no black pitting in it, that's rust on the backside of the panel that will come through
        . Matter of time. If that upper piece is gone far enough it'd be faster just to salve a good one off another car and weld it on where the factory spot welds are, definitely use weld through primer and undercoat backside of new panel where you can. Rust never sleeps, I don't trust converters personally.. band aid, metal is weaker anyway if rust is eating it and you can't get everything.

        Just my thoughts, I do rust repair occassionally at work, mostly qhole rockers and cb corners. Id rather go all out doing it once, then risk shortcutting somewhere and it coming back
        ^ Yup! What he said.

        Just finished putting camber bolts on Red Car. Going out to get a new drain cock to replace the bad one on my compressor, and then the die grinder will be used extensively!!!!
        Got to run get some sheet metal too ... I'll form it myself
        Last edited by drddan; 07-12-2014, 01:09 PM.
        Dan




        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

        R.I.P.
        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
        Silver 1988 Festiva L

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        • #19
          por-15 is amazing for rust ive used it alot on my old foxbody just got my first festiva cant wait to start
          doing stuff to it

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          • #20
            I bought my 92 in 95 and the hatch was starting to rust in a spot under the window below and up under the vinyl molding. It hadn't gone through yet. I lifted the molding in the bad area , sanded the spot and applied a couple of coats of Ospho and let it set a few days. I then cleaned off the residue and brushed on a couple of coats of red Rustoleum. That was in 1995 in the Florida Keys in the midst of the famous Keyrosion belt and it is still holding up. By the way, I went on to cut about 5 small inverted V notches along the bottom edge of that molding to let moisture out and dry air in.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by michiganfestiva89 View Post
              por-15 is amazing for rust ive used it alot on my old foxbody just got my first festiva cant wait to start
              doing stuff to it

              http://forums.off-road.com/jeep-shor...years-use.html
              Welcome to the forum! And your new to you Festy!

              I feel honored you picked my thread to make your first post! Ha! :mrgreen:
              Dan




              Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

              Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

              I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

              R.I.P.
              Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
              Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
              Silver 1988 Festiva L

              My Music!
              http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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              • #22
                Thanks I love this car it's simply amazing small yet spacious and looks cool lol its bad I have a 05 explorer dot
                and choose to drive the festiva lol

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                • #23
                  Yeah, me too! 2 Festy's and 2 trucks. The Festy is way more fun to drive. Did you know a washing machine can be fit into the rear area of a Festy!? Ask about the "Rear seat fold trick!"

                  BTW, I made a new thread for the repair of the rust area

                  It is here:

                  http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...2-(the-repair)
                  Last edited by drddan; 07-12-2014, 10:02 PM.
                  Dan




                  Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                  Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                  I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                  R.I.P.
                  Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                  Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                  Silver 1988 Festiva L

                  My Music!
                  http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                  • #24
                    Nice tools. Great job.
                    Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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                    • #25
                      Mee too!



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                      • #26
                        Rust sux!
                        Dan




                        Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                        Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                        I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                        R.I.P.
                        Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                        Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                        Silver 1988 Festiva L

                        My Music!
                        http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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                        • #27
                          Pfft. You oughta see my floor. Makes me not want to fix it.

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                          1990 Festiva L "puddles". 187,000 mi. All stock, B8 coming this fall to a festiva near you

                          Do not write below this line; for office use only

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                          • #28
                            I get odd looks @ intersections, tapping my foot on the asphalt waiting for lights....

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                            • #29


                              Thankfully its only the floor board. The little frame part is still solid

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                              1990 Festiva L "puddles". 187,000 mi. All stock, B8 coming this fall to a festiva near you

                              Do not write below this line; for office use only

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ckiesman View Post
                                The little frame part is still solid
                                ^ That is a good thing!

                                It's been my experience that floorboards rust from the inside out ......
                                Last edited by drddan; 07-19-2014, 05:33 PM.
                                Dan




                                Red 1988 Festiva L - CUJO

                                Black 1992 Festiva GL Sport - BLACK MAGIC

                                I'm just...a little slow... sometimes:withstupid:

                                R.I.P.
                                Blue 1972 Chevelle SS-468 C.I.D. B'nM TH400-4:56 posi-Black racing stripes-Black vinyl top-Black int.
                                Black on black 1976 Camaro LT-350 4 bolt main .060 over
                                Silver 1988 Festiva L

                                My Music!
                                http://www.reverbnation.com/main/sea...t_songs/266647

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