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    Blue needs new piston rings. It's eating oil like 2 quarts a week. I took a chance on this engine I got from a junk yard that Matt supplied for me and put in.
    How hard is it to replace/put in new piston rings? I know it would be easier, but does the engine have to be removed?

    Thanks in advance.
    1993 Ford Festiva L blue 170,000 miles
    1990 Ford Festiva L Plus white 190,000 Auto, currently waiting to have another engine put in.
    1995 Ford F150 XLT black 203,000 miles
    2002 Honda CRV silver 180,000 miles
    2003 Toyota Rav4 Sport black 94,000 miles
    2008 Sym Rv250 dark grey 30,000 miles. My scooter.
    1989 Ford Festiva LX black 233,000 miles. Sold to my better half's son.

    Mike

  • #2
    No, but it would make life a lot easier.
    If your going to do the rings, better to replace all the other seals and bearings while you're in there.
    Might even call for some machine shop work.
    Do it right the first time.
    You'll have a "new" engine and know it's good for anoth 250,000+ if you use good quality parts.
    Cheaper in the long run than swaping in unknown engines.
    Just my $0.03 worth (inflation adjusted).
    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
    '92 Aqua parts Car
    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
    Your holy ghost will not save you.
    Your God plutonium will not save you.
    In fact...
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    • #3
      You can ...I have done an in frame rebuild , it's not much harder really . I have had good luck with just slap rings on and go ,( no honing) I'm sure others won't like hearing that but oh well .. Gets another 100thou out of it .
      New build on the way .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pu241 View Post
        No, but it would make life a lot easier.
        If your going to do the rings, better to replace all the other seals and bearings while you're in there.
        Might even call for some machine shop work.
        Do it right the first time.
        You'll have a "new" engine and know it's good for anoth 250,000+ if you use good quality parts.
        Cheaper in the long run than swaping in unknown engines.
        Just my $0.03 worth (inflation adjusted).
        Seals and bearings were already replaced when the engine was put in. The only thing we didn't do (which we should have) is replaced the rings.
        1993 Ford Festiva L blue 170,000 miles
        1990 Ford Festiva L Plus white 190,000 Auto, currently waiting to have another engine put in.
        1995 Ford F150 XLT black 203,000 miles
        2002 Honda CRV silver 180,000 miles
        2003 Toyota Rav4 Sport black 94,000 miles
        2008 Sym Rv250 dark grey 30,000 miles. My scooter.
        1989 Ford Festiva LX black 233,000 miles. Sold to my better half's son.

        Mike

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        • #5
          Originally posted by muleskinner View Post
          Seals and bearings were already replaced when the engine was put in. The only thing we didn't do (which we should have) is replaced the rings.
          Ouch, maybe someone else will learn from your experience!
          '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
          '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
          '92 Aqua parts Car
          '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
          '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

          "Your God of repentance will not save you.
          Your holy ghost will not save you.
          Your God plutonium will not save you.
          In fact...
          ...You will not be saved!"

          Prince of Darkness -1987

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          • #6
            we will thanks

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            • #7
              Did you do the valve stem seals? Have you verified it is the rings? You may want to do a compression test! Doing new rings, you might as well rebuild her from the ground up. Easiest would be to grab a blown B3, maybe at madness, and rebuild that, then swap it in.

              You did the crankshaft bearings?
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              • #8
                I'm going to do a sea foam clean first in a week or 2.
                1993 Ford Festiva L blue 170,000 miles
                1990 Ford Festiva L Plus white 190,000 Auto, currently waiting to have another engine put in.
                1995 Ford F150 XLT black 203,000 miles
                2002 Honda CRV silver 180,000 miles
                2003 Toyota Rav4 Sport black 94,000 miles
                2008 Sym Rv250 dark grey 30,000 miles. My scooter.
                1989 Ford Festiva LX black 233,000 miles. Sold to my better half's son.

                Mike

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pu241 View Post
                  Ouch, maybe someone else will learn from your experience!
                  Yes! We will, oh mighty poster!badh2

                  sorry, I just could not resist the wild new emoticons don't take me seriously
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Icedawg View Post
                    Yes! We will, oh mighty poster!badh2

                    sorry, I just could not resist the wild new emoticons don't take me seriously
                    I need to use that emoticon for the next time some one asks "why don't get heat out of the center vents".
                    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                    '92 Aqua parts Car
                    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                    Your holy ghost will not save you.
                    Your God plutonium will not save you.
                    In fact...
                    ...You will not be saved!"

                    Prince of Darkness -1987

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                    • #11
                      Muleskinner, are you sure it's rings and not valves? How many miles showing on the odometer in the car with the JY motor? Valves would be much easier to do, and in either case you would be pulling the head.
                      Last edited by TominMO; 09-25-2014, 11:22 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TominMO View Post
                        Muleskinner, are you sure it's rings and not valves? How many miles showing on the odometer in the car with the JY motor? Valves would be much easier to do, and in either case you would be pulling the head.
                        Valve seals & front seals and gaskets were all done on the engine this spring. I'm hoping it's just stuck piston rings.
                        1993 Ford Festiva L blue 170,000 miles
                        1990 Ford Festiva L Plus white 190,000 Auto, currently waiting to have another engine put in.
                        1995 Ford F150 XLT black 203,000 miles
                        2002 Honda CRV silver 180,000 miles
                        2003 Toyota Rav4 Sport black 94,000 miles
                        2008 Sym Rv250 dark grey 30,000 miles. My scooter.
                        1989 Ford Festiva LX black 233,000 miles. Sold to my better half's son.

                        Mike

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