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    Today I went out and fixed my Aspire's parking brake pivot; the one inside the brake drum that gets rusty and keeps the parking brake on.

    Inspired by Advancedynamix's shifter fix, I decided to use nylon washers as thrust bearings, to eliminate any chance of them rusting together in the future, along with stainless fasteners.

    The pic below needs to be corrected in two ways:
    1. I also put a nylon washer between the screw head and the pivot arm; and
    2. I reversed the position of the screw head and nylock nut. You want the smaller screw head on top, to clear the inside of the brake shoe better. In the picture, the assembled pivot arm in the background is for the passenger side, and the nut as shown is on top.

    Using the nylock nut means I could adjust the tension to loose enough without being floppy. And the stainless fasteners of course won't rust. They are 1/4" screws, and slightly loose in the holes they pass thru.

    On an Aspire, the pivot halves are held in place by one of those two rivets you see. They are secured by a washer thingy that crimps on. I don't know the proper name for it. This might also be true for later Festys like the '93 that comes with the nut cage and cotter pin instead of the crush nut, but IDK. My '90 Festy has a rivet that you have to grind off one end to get it off, instead of the crimping washer.

    I'm hoping this fixes this little issue forever. I'll take another, corrected pic tmw.

    Last edited by TominMO; 05-23-2015, 11:49 PM.
    90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
    09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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  • #2
    do you know if the aspire pivit arms are the same size as the festiva ones when i bought my festiva they were missing so i went to the junkyard and bought some aspire ones they seem to fit and work ok but i had to modify the part the brake cable connects to because it was hitting my rims
    88 L carb'ed (when up in flames of glory)(deceased) 4spd
    89 L carb'ed (died on the operating table (rust))(deceased) 5spd
    93 gl FI (sold) automagical
    89 lx FI megasquirted "luna" b6D+t (186hp 209ftlbs)
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    • #3
      Originally posted by monkeykiller1996 View Post
      do you know if the aspire pivit arms are the same size as the festiva ones when i bought my festiva they were missing so i went to the junkyard and bought some aspire ones they seem to fit and work ok but i had to modify the part the brake cable connects to because it was hitting my rims
      No, I don't know if they are the same.
      90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
      09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by monkeykiller1996 View Post
        do you know if the aspire pivit arms are the same size as the festiva ones when i bought my festiva they were missing so i went to the junkyard and bought some aspire ones they seem to fit and work ok but i had to modify the part the brake cable connects to because it was hitting my rims
        Novel idea! Certainly they (Aspire/Festy) brake pivots look and function the same but I have a hard time believing they're identical. Someone on here will be able to do a proper comparison. In the same vein how to Rio pivots compare.

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        • #5
          The pin is called a "clevis" pin. I remember that from fixing the ones on my '89. I replaced the clevis pins with a ordinary bolts. They are held on with cotter pins so I drilled a hole in the bolts to accept a cotter pin. I find the best way to keep the pins from rusting is to use the parking brake.
          Last edited by WmWatt; 05-24-2015, 07:39 AM.
          Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bert View Post
            Novel idea! Certainly they (Aspire/Festy) brake pivots look and function the same but I have a hard time believing they're identical. Someone on here will be able to do a proper comparison. In the same vein how to Rio pivots compare.
            Yeah, they are probably not identical, simply because the Aspire has larger brakes. The parking brake adjuster would have to be longer.
            90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
            09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

            You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

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            • #7
              Good work Tom!
              Always good to have pics!
              So when did you up grade phone/camera?
              '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pu241 View Post
                Good work Tom!
                Always good to have pics!
                So when did you up grade phone/camera?
                Same camera. Just turned off the date feature.
                90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                Disaster preparedness

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WmWatt View Post
                  The pin is called a "clevis" pin. I remember that from fixing the ones on my '89. I replaced the clevis pins with a ordinary bolts. They are held on with cotter pins so I drilled a hole in the bolts to accept a cotter pin. I find the best way to keep the pins from rusting is to use the parking brake.
                  I think the clevis pin you are talking about is the one that connects the outside half of the pivot arm to the cable. That one has a cotter pin. The one inside the drum does not. On my Festy, I replaced the outside clevis pin with a stainless bolt and nylock nut, and greased both sides of the pivot arms where it fits into the end of the cable.
                  90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                  09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                  You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                  Disaster preparedness

                  Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

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                  • #10
                    A better pic. At the top is the driver's side unit, at the bottom is the pass. side in "exploded" view. After taking this pic, I disassembled them and painted the part that sticks out of the drum area and attaches to the cable. I also noticed that the little rubber boots in the backing plate were in good shape, but dry, so I squirted some Armor-All on them to re-moisten them.



                    I also used some 3/8" galvanized washers to space the backing plate from the trailing arm by 6mm. This will eliminate the need for my 6mm spacer. I may still need to use the 3mm spacer tho. I didn't do anything fancy like Charlie, just stuck washers on the stock studs. And 6mm is about the max, as you run out of thread after that. Notice the piece of blue tape; the strut was rubbing there during hard turning, so I cut some of it away. You can see the painted-over scar on the strut. It's worse on the Festy, because the Bilsteins have a thicker body than these VW KYBs. Did the same thing there too. Thanks to william and Advancedynamix for the heads-up on this issue.



                    I picked these up at Lowe's. Note that this is not a precision-manufactured part; there are skinny ones and fat ones. Four fats = five skinnys, pretty much. I used all fats, and lined the four stacks of four next to each other and ran my finger over them, to check for equal height. There are 25 per bag, but with the variations I got two bags. If I only did 3 per stud I could have gotten away with one bag, but there's that variation in thickness to consider too. They are a useful washer size to have around for other stuff too.

                    Last edited by TominMO; 05-24-2015, 02:33 PM.
                    90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                    09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                    You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                    Disaster preparedness

                    Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                    Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                    • #11
                      i will say tho, the aspire one fits and works on my stock festiva rear drums so they must be fairly close to the same size i have to replace the wheel bearings tomorrow anyway ill snap a pic (if i remember)of the aspire's i have in mine
                      Last edited by monkeykiller1996; 05-25-2015, 12:13 AM.
                      88 L carb'ed (when up in flames of glory)(deceased) 4spd
                      89 L carb'ed (died on the operating table (rust))(deceased) 5spd
                      93 gl FI (sold) automagical
                      89 lx FI megasquirted "luna" b6D+t (186hp 209ftlbs)
                      88 L carbFI megasquirted zombie car

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                      • #12
                        I am crying for you guys with all that rust !
                        Tom, conventional engineering wants to have a smooth shank in the pivot area, does pivoting on threads work long term? does that help keep the pivot clean? Or hold more lube? Just wondering.
                        No car too fast !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
                          I am crying for you guys with all that rust !
                          Tom, conventional engineering wants to have a smooth shank in the pivot area, does pivoting on threads work long term? does that help keep the pivot clean? Or hold more lube? Just wondering.
                          The bolt is smaller diameter than the stock piece, so pivoting on threads should not be an issue. I believe this is a permanent solution, but only time will prove it out.
                          90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                          09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                          You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                          Disaster preparedness

                          Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                          Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                          • #14
                            Looks like a great fix for very little money, what sort of lube do you use?
                            No car too fast !

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
                              Looks like a great fix for very little money, what sort of lube do you use?
                              The grease referred to in post #9 is wheel bearing grease, which I use for lot of things it was not intended for. Like oil drain plug threads, to eliminate leaking even with 0W30 oil.
                              90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                              09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                              You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                              Disaster preparedness

                              Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                              Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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