One more no-spark thread.

[ryanprins13]

I finally had a sec to look at it. The carbed, efi and aspire cams are all different lobe hights. Quitr possible that the rockers are different sizes to match but im not sure.

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[drddan]

I have no idea. How can I tell?

The year 88/89 are carb. Is your car carb or efi

[Ceramiccactus]

Worst case scenario? Seized engine?
Wouldn't I still have spark?

[Ceramiccactus]

It's fuel injected.
Or atleast I thought it was.
I haven't seen a carb anywhere, and I'm not familiar with EFI

[drddan]

Not seized. I need to know what ignition and fuel system you have, is why I ask if carb or efi. No spark can be diff issue for one or the other.
Carb distributor has ECM inside, under the dizzy cap. and will give a no spark condition that you describe, if it is bad

[Ceramiccactus]

Not seized. I need to know what ignition and fuel system you have, is why I ask if carb or efi. No spark can be diff issue for one or the other.
Carb distributor has ECM inside, under the dizzy cap. and will give a no spark condition that you describe, if it is bad

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[drddan]

Ok, EFI. The ECM controls spark. If you have spark to coil and not to plugs, it can be the ECM which is mounted on the strut tower. I see you have the PAL fuses so it shouldn't be the fuses. Id check them to be sure tho

[Ceramiccactus]

Ok, EFI. The ECM controls spark. If you have spark to coil and not to plugs, it can be the ECM which is mounted on the strut tower. I see you have the PAL fuses so it shouldn't be the fuses. Id check them to be sure tho

The PAL fuses are brand new.
What does the ECM look like?

HUGE thanks to everybody for the help.

[Ceramiccactus]

It looks like the ECM would be under dash above brake pedal? square computer box? sorry, I'm not too familiar with the acronyms yet.

[drddan]

Try this. I get mixed up too. lol
In this pic its called Ignition Module (not ecm)

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[Ceramiccactus]

Try this. I get mixed up too. lol
In this pic its called Ignition Module (not ecm)

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I have a brand new from store ignition module installed.

[drddan]

well...hmmm
without hands on, I'm at a loss to diag this. Have you looked around for something simple? Have you messed with the VAF? (vane air flow) looked for frayed wires or connections around vaf, ignition etc?

[Ceramiccactus]

well...hmmm
without hands on, I'm at a loss to diag this. Have you looked around for something simple? Have you messed with the VAF? (vane air flow) looked for frayed wires or connections around vaf, ignition etc?

I have taken MAFS out and inspected single connector for it. Everything looks good to me. My 12v light had a slight weak signal when testing the connector. It was before I charged battery though.
My first post has a list of everything I have tried.

[ryanprins13]

How hard is it to replace the distributor??
I have read that it involves timing.

its 2 bolts and is super easy. you just mark exactly where the distributor was and put the new one back in exactly the same spot. But yes, turning the distributor adjusts ignition timing.

Do you think that anything I messed with under the valve cover could be responsible for my no-spark issue?

No

Worst case scenario? Seized engine?
Wouldn't I still have spark?

You would still have spark, im just saying it may not be the best to have 2 different kinds or rocker arms neither of which are meant for your engine. possibly. but im not sure for sure, all I know is that the camshafts are different.

It's fuel injected.
Or atleast I thought it was.
I haven't seen a carb anywhere, and I'm not familiar with EFI

It is fuel injected, no carb. Carberated cars were 88-89/90 and fuel injected was 90/91-93. all OBD1. Then the 1994-1997 aspires were also fuel injected but obd2 with some slight differences from the 91-93 fuel injected engines-like the camshaft for example.
EFI= electronic fuel injection. thats what you have.

It looks like the ECM would be under dash above brake pedal? square computer box? sorry, I'm not too familiar with the acronyms yet.

That is where the ecm is.
I contacted one guy who says he might have a distributor, but he is 2.5hrs away from you. Will see what he says when he gets back to me. Have you contacted the guy here who said he might be down the street from you to see if he has a distributor you can try?
Im sorry I couldnt help you with this more, I had a super busy evening, just had time to get back on the computer now and its after midnight. Normally I'm more available to help... Hope you can find a distributor to try soon.

[WmWatt]

Is the the distributor is driven off the camshaft (correct me if I'm wrong) or crankshaft? Your 1992 model is fuel injected but the top cam is manual adjust (off a carburetted model) whereas the fuel injected models have hydraulic adjust (correct me if I'm wrong), which would mean the head was swapped at some time for one off a carburetted model(correct me if I'm wrong). That might put the distributor timing at risk? But it can be adjusted by turning the distributor? Also the timing belt controls valve timing, and if the distributor runs off a cam lobe, then that too. The whole swapping camshafts and breaking rockers sounds a bit suspicious but then I've not worked on engines beyond changing the timing belt and adjusting the manual valve clearances. All speculation on my part. Unique and intruguing situation!

PS I'm going to question one of my assumptions here. The carburetted models have a mechanical fuel pump driven off the intake cam shaft but this car is fuel injected so it has an electric fuel pump inside the fuel tank. That may be one way to tell if the head was swapped.