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  • Car stalls when idling, oil in the intake, ???

    A little history on the problem:
    91 FI 5spd festy, has been running fine. Ran alright last summer, although it had occasional stalling problems then but nothing serious and I upped the idle speed a little, cleaned the plugs all was well. It ran well all winter long, seemed like it idled high till it got warm, and it took a while to get warm, but i think thats just normal it ran fine and idled great once warm.

    Now about 2 weeks ago when the warmer weather began to hit (a few days before OH V) it started stalling at idle. I was so busy i didn't have time to check anything and just drove it to OHstiva that way, it drove fine the whole way except for a few areas on the hwy it bogged down a lot, had to put it in 4th and floor it just to keep 55-65, but this "bogging down" only happened a few times and never lasted more than a minute or two. On the way home and since then (like another 5-ish tanks of gas) i haven't had that problem at all so I think that was just bad gas and not related to the stalling problem.

    The problem and what I've checked:
    It stalls when idling, at stop signs, when coasting for a long period, etc. It doesn't always die as soon as i put the clutch in, it just idles really low and then sputters and dies. Other times it seems like it dies almost right away.
    I checked for vacuum leaks by spraying starter fluid around, and using soapy water on the PCV valve and stuff, couldn't find any vacuum leaks. ran my hand over all the vacuum hoses and everything seems good. I pulled the PCV valve with the car running and it has good vacuum, but little puffs of smoke were coming out of the VC, not sure if that should happen?
    Next i checked the solenoid by the intake manifold, manual said it should have between 7.7-9.x ohms resistance. it had 8ohm, so i think thats OK. (i thought it was a little strange that it was measured on the wiring harness side of the plug, that doesn't make much sense to me?)
    I also picked up a new O2 sensor thinking that may be it, but the O2 sensor in there is giving a reading in the specified range and i couldn't get it out w/o fear of stripping it so i haven't installed the new one.
    Today i pulled the MAF. there is always a little oil in the intake tube when i pull it off, and i pulled it last week, and there was a bit. But when i pulled it again today about a week later there was a LOT of oil in it... after just a week!



    so now i'm confused. where is that oil coming from? is it related to my idle problem? what else could be causing my car not to idle now, when it was fine a few weeks ago, and it still accelerates fine and runs fine just won't idle??


    thanks all... sorry for such a long post.
    ~Nate

    the keeper of a wonderful lil car, Skeeter.

    Current cars:
    91L "Skeeter" 170k, Aspire brakes, G15, BP, Advancedynamics coil overs, etc. My first love.
    1990 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - my gas saver, 60+mpg - 40k
    2004 MotoGuzzi Breva - my "longer range" bike - 17k

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  • #2
    sounds like its following instructions from my old engine :lol: but really, sounds like your compression has dropped below what the engine needs to regulate its vacuum controled fuel regulator, thats what the oil isin the air box,and thats why your VC is puffing, the blow-by is overcoming your vacuum system and killing your fuel

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    • #3
      Try running a can of Seafoam through a vacuum line.

      It could be that gunk has built up on the rings, making them not seal properly and allowing oil to blow into the air cleaner and possibly cause low compression.
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      • #4
        sounds like my 91

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        • #5
          i ran a can of sea-foam thru it in the fall i think, it shouldn't be that bad already.

          I'm going to compression-test tonight when my dad gets home and i can use his comp tester... i guess that will reveal whether or not thats my problem!

          guess i better keep working on that B6!! i'm just afraid that isn't going to last long either because the block is in such bad shape.
          ~Nate

          the keeper of a wonderful lil car, Skeeter.

          Current cars:
          91L "Skeeter" 170k, Aspire brakes, G15, BP, Advancedynamics coil overs, etc. My first love.
          1990 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - my gas saver, 60+mpg - 40k
          2004 MotoGuzzi Breva - my "longer range" bike - 17k

          FOTY 2008 winner!

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          • #6
            Nate .. give it a heapin helpin of Seafoam , you know it can't hurt ,
            Maybe your IAC is sticking , when mine was acting up , I ran it thru all the lines and the hose going to the IAC , to and from it .

            I would fill it up, let it gurgle a bit , then hold my thumb over the hose , let it build some vacuum , then open it up and do it again .
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            • #7
              I've got low compression on two cylenders... the numbers 1-4 are:
              185-140-185-145

              i put a little oil in #2 and the pressure went WAY up, like over 240, but only for a stroke or two then it slowly went back down to 190 then 180, as the oil ran back thru the rings. So i guess i've got bad rings and not bad valve or something.

              After doing the comp test I got a can of seafoam, and poured a little into each cylender directly thru the plug holes. not very much just a little, and let that soak for like 15min. started it up ran a lil rough at first and smoked then i just let it high-idle for like 5min till the engine was warm and ran like 1/4-1/3 can of foam thru the intake vacuum line. Let that soak for 10min and then drove it hard a little to clear it out (redline 1-3 twice, and 2 miles or so of cruising @ 65), got home and its stalling even more than before and backfiring some... ?? i checked all the plugs when i had them out and made sure they were gapped right and stuff. not sure what its problem is now..

              oh, and after i got home, i was standing in front of the car looking things over and the patch on my rad which has been holding for a few months blew hot fluid about 3ft high 6" from my face ...
              ~Nate

              the keeper of a wonderful lil car, Skeeter.

              Current cars:
              91L "Skeeter" 170k, Aspire brakes, G15, BP, Advancedynamics coil overs, etc. My first love.
              1990 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - my gas saver, 60+mpg - 40k
              2004 MotoGuzzi Breva - my "longer range" bike - 17k

              FOTY 2008 winner!

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              • #8
                my 91 has oil comming out of the exhaust and collecting on the back hatch but it seems to have some power to stay on the highways but not as much as before.

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                • #9
                  i remember years ago we use to pour atf down the carb let the engine die then let it soak then retart the moter..smoked alot.

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                  • #10
                    get your B6 ready my friend :wink:

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                    • #11
                      how much longer do you give the B3?


                      yesterday i cured the symptom of stalling by turning the screw under the little rubber cap out 1/4 turn, however i know thats just a quick fix for the symptom and not a cure for any of the actual problems, lol. I didn't do that before because i didn't want to just fix the symptom w/o knowing what the problem was. Now that i know i figure i should be able to put another few k on the engine before that are any *major* issues, and even after i swap the B6 i think the engine is in over all good shape just needs new rings so i may fix it up to have as a spare or to sell.
                      ~Nate

                      the keeper of a wonderful lil car, Skeeter.

                      Current cars:
                      91L "Skeeter" 170k, Aspire brakes, G15, BP, Advancedynamics coil overs, etc. My first love.
                      1990 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - my gas saver, 60+mpg - 40k
                      2004 MotoGuzzi Breva - my "longer range" bike - 17k

                      FOTY 2008 winner!

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                      • #12
                        you'll be fine, my old engine has lower compression then that (110 in the weakest LOL) and I got all winter out of it, of course the airbox was like a second oil resivoir :lol: and if you took the oil cap off while running, you could blow up a ballon

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