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    This is my 88 LX that I was going to swap the BP into. It is rusty on the frame rails. I also know it's more work to swap into a carbed festy. I'm just looking for opinions. Should I search for an efi festiva and just sell this one. I know it's nothing compared to the Wisonson/Michigan/Saskatchewan rust, but in VA I've had only 2 rusty festivas. This one and an Ohio rust bucket. Here is the story on the festiva in these pics.






    youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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    Holy S***...is that your garage?

    Where is that last pict from...if it's below the sill...cut it out.

    Thats all not that bad....any local paint shops to give you a spray under coat? The local Rhino Lining franchise sprays an encapsulating coat prior to undercoating...it does not stop it rusting from the inside out but does help alot.

    I think you should post that lift in the For Sale Forum
    Joe Lutz

    The SKATE ..... 1992L 5spd
    The Greatest Purchase I Ever Made

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    • #3
      You better not use that car. It looks too bad, you should give it to me!
      Brian
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2274977



      93 GL modyfied!!!
      :fish:

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      • #4
        I wish it was my garage. My buddy rents it with another guy. I am in good with them. This morning I was in there from 10 a.m. - 3 p.m. by myself with all the snap on tools and 2 lifts. I respect them and their tools and time. I picked up the key so I could part out the escort GT for my swap.
        youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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        • #5
          Oh thats pristine. Toss the BP right on in.
          It's a good thing you don't read the stickies, you might of learned something.Poverty produces creativity

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          • #6
            inless its really rotten and soft... dont worry about it. from the pix it looks like surface rust. Just pick up a can of undercoating (3-4$) and coat the rails and your good.
            89SX funtop! Fully loaded!
            RIP 90LX

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stefan
              inless its really rotten and soft... dont worry about it. from the pix it looks like surface rust. Just pick up a can of undercoating (3-4$) and coat the rails and your good.
              I was right with you until I saw that last picture. Looks nearly rusted through to me.
              Axlander9289, brother of ThisVelologist

              Festivas past:
              Aqua '92 Festiva L - Sold "Dale"
              White '89 Festiva L Plus - RIP "Dudley"
              White '93 Festiva GL - Sold to thisvelologist "Frito"
              Red '91 Festiva L - Sold to Louieisawesome "Geraldo"

              Current Fleet:
              Aqua '93 Festiva L with Aspire brakes "Dale Jr."
              Black and White '93 Festiva GL Sport (White alloys and spoiler are long gone) "Blues-tiva"
              White '15 Ford Transit Connect

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              • #8
                that's how Fester looked. Didn't look bad initially, but those frame rails are multi-layered. I found worse rust on the inner layers. I bent-up new 14ga sheetmetal rails and welded them in. Had to burn out the pitch/tar betwen the layers of the frame rails first to get a good bead.
                Jim DeAngelis

                kittens give Morbo gas!!



                Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
                Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)

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                • #9
                  i can see daylight through the corner of my floors

                  so i would still through a BP in there :lol:

                  1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
                  1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
                  2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

                  1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

                  If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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                  • #10
                    Man i don't know all that power, tire hopping when you get on it......could bent the infostructure of that unibody car right in half. Throw the BP in ther you sissy!
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                    • #11
                      It looks better than any of the festivas I have had. You should ask IdealSociety if that rust is bad. But for this area, that car is 99% rust free. I would use it with out a second thought.
                      The Festiva Store
                      Specializing in restoration, tuning and custom parts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by festivaWES
                        Man i don't know all that power, tire hopping when you get on it......could bent the infostructure of that unibody car right in half. Throw the BP in ther you sissy!
                        :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
                        youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                        • #13
                          It's just a case of this is the rustiest Virginia Festiva I've ever seen. Nobody has chimed in on the carbed car challenges. Any thoughts there? Or is it just the fuel pump. I have another festiva. It's a 91, but it has air and I really want to keep it as a cheap dd with air. I do score them on a semi regular basis. I guess I average one every 3 - 4 months. I have another lined up but it's carbed too. Decisions decisions.
                          youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by carbonvmax
                            It's just a case of this is the rustiest Virginia Festiva I've ever seen. Nobody has chimed in on the carbed car challenges. Any thoughts there? Or is it just the fuel pump. I have another festiva. It's a 91, but it has air and I really want to keep it as a cheap dd with air. I do score them on a semi regular basis. I guess I average one every 3 - 4 months. I have another lined up but it's carbed too. Decisions decisions.

                            I'd do it, its only a shell, if it turns out too bad just swap the engine of to another shell!

                            as far as carb'd, since youve got the escort harness it shouldn't matter too much. just swap the escort harness over and then add a in-line fuel pump. I'm sure someone who has done this will be able to chime in a bit more but it doesn't seem like it should be all that rough.
                            ~Nate

                            the keeper of a wonderful lil car, Skeeter.

                            Current cars:
                            91L "Skeeter" 170k, Aspire brakes, G15, BP, Advancedynamics coil overs, etc. My first love.
                            1990 Kawasaki Ninja 250 - my gas saver, 60+mpg - 40k
                            2004 MotoGuzzi Breva - my "longer range" bike - 17k

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                            • #15
                              how would you feel if you put the engine in, and then score a
                              perfect efi model? if you arent in a hurry and come across them
                              pretty often id probably wait awhile. but certainly for a midwest
                              car, that not bad rust at all.
                              "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." -Mohandas Gandhi

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