Karl, the pick and pull near us is showing 3 2001 Rios now. Two added just last week. I'm not around this weekend/week to check them out. You should go have a look!
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I didn't bother to count the teeth, probably should have..it would be interesting to rip it back apart and get some measurements, but I just dont have the time or space for that right now. A lot of different internet sources say they have a 4.105 FDR.2008 Kia Rio- new beater
1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP
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Ive done this trans swap twice and is very easy . Just get the mounts with the trans and shifter rods and axles then your set .
Im not sure about the gearing but i will say 65mph holds the b6t about 3500 rpms . It was perfect for my area but if you run interstate alot it would be annoying .New build on the way .
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I did a little research on this awhile back, the 01's had the 4.10ish FD and I believe in 02 they got a much better for highway 3.85 or something because they switched engines I believe and needed an mpg boostOwner of:
1991 Red Festiva L, 5 speed (Swagger Wagon)
In progress:
BP+G25MR swap, Kia rio axles hopefully.
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remind me, whats the factory festiva ratio? and is all the other gear ratios the same? or is it a closer ratio trans?
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Shadetree wrote:
"I'm not sure about the gearing but i will say 65mph holds the b6t about 3500 rpms."
I checked last night and my stock 5 speed does just a hair over 2500 rpm at 65 mph.
Since I'm turning Prettystiva into a "cruiser" for long, comfortable trips and decent mileage, 3500 rpm at 65 won't do it. Too noisy and too thirsty!
I'm really thinking she needs that B8 swap I was planning on being my next step.
Found this...note Ken2400's post near the middle bottom:
He wrote: "You said it. My 2002 5sp is going like 3200 RPMs + at 65MPH. It is the main reason I will get rid of it before I want to."
(Any difference between his and Shadetree's engine speed could be due to different tire sizinig.)
Ah, here is the '02 5 speed gearing:
Drivetrain: Front Wheel Drive
Trans Type: 5
Trans Description Cont.: Manual
First Gear Ratio (:1): 3.42
Second Gear Ratio (:1): 1.90
Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.30
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.91
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.74
Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.27
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1): 4.17
Here it is for the '04 Rio, same site:
Drivetrain: Front Wheel Drive
Trans Type: 5
Trans Description Cont.: Manual w/OD
First Gear Ratio (:1): 3.42
Second Gear Ratio (:1): 1.90
Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.30
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.97
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.78
Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.27
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1): 4.17
Looks like with the adoption of the larger engine, fourth and fifth gears were changed. Final drive is the same at 4.17:1.
Could be wrong I suppose.
KarlLast edited by Safety Guy; 06-26-2012, 07:33 AM.'93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
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'92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
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I had no clue that the FD was 4.17 thats ok for a 1.3l but not a 1.8l. This tranny would be a great upgrade for a stock 1.3-1.6 but for a 1.8 its way to much gear imo.Especially when you factor in the F series clutch droolSome people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
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You could always up the tire size, since the larger engine has more power, it will lower the RPMs with the same ground speed.
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Long drives are not that bad with the Rio trans. I have one in my car from hulk and it is a little higher rpms but I still got 33 mpgs driving from pa to new jersey a couple times and that is with the b6t motor.93 Festiva L White B6T
99 Dodge Ram STL Green Cummins. AKA the Jolly Green Giant
89 Festiva Blue
91 Green “Mad Maxine” Festiva B6T
93 Festiva GL Black BP automatic
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