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  • #31
    Re: Idea: Ultimate carby intake for B series motors.

    What if you were to use e85 or even straight meth.
    Meth is not as dense as gasoline and has a lower boiling point.
    Would that be more beneficial?

    Interesting thread guys. Love it.
    1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Movin View Post
      Please do not take this wrong....If it runs its all
      Heck no, I'm not taking it wrong. I really don't know much about this except internet research I did for my Suzuki motors. The bike carbs we're looking at are sliders...I just forgot.

      You're right about short runners. Automotive side drafts won't fit in our engine compartments, not enough clearance to the fire wall. Four bike carbs might, but spacing between carbs becomes a problem. They'd have to be small bore, too...like from a 650cc bike, and then jetting would become a issue.

      Maybe an EFI manifold could be used, with openings at each end, an offset tube to drop the carbs down under the hood. I mean like two 38mm Mukinis on ram horn looking round offsets. Offsets would be as short as possible.
      Last edited by BigElCat; 02-27-2013, 07:33 PM.
      '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

      '92 Geo Metro XFi

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      • #33
        Could maybe work. Ill have to see what matt had in mind cuz we really never talked about any details. I think festy hauler is working on a custom intake design... i asked him about it but havent heard back yet, im very interested to see what he has come up with.

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        • #34
          Hear that...I don't have anything against Matt.

          I can see why innovators don't share their ideas with the public before a product is made. I said he'd reject something if it wasn't his idea. More like because it's stupid.

          My long single tube going to a 'tunnel ram' intake is pretty lame.
          '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

          '92 Geo Metro XFi

          '87 Suzuki Samurai

          '85 F150, modded 300cid

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          • #35
            You dont know that for sure... it sometimes takes crazy ideas to come up with something good. Dont ever knock your own ideas cuz you never know you might just come up with something that works... I honestly dont know enough about what does what on intakes to know what would work good.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by moz View Post
              What if you were to use e85 or even straight meth.
              Meth is not as dense as gasoline and has a lower boiling point.
              Would that be more beneficial?

              Interesting thread guys. Love it.
              Pure methanol, eh? Why, I could make that myself....from the seed to the drippins >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJzoaYZk

              re-Fresh
              Last edited by BigElCat; 02-27-2013, 11:20 PM.
              '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

              '92 Geo Metro XFi

              '87 Suzuki Samurai

              '85 F150, modded 300cid

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              • #37
                The rich mixture required for meth would be more forgiving but some how we would need heat to keep it from freezing up.

                I wonder if we could glue heater element wire in the bottom of the runners, inside in the air flow to stop fuel puddling. The heater blower motor resistor uses element wire like what might work.

                That could fix the gasoline problem too.
                Last edited by Movin; 02-28-2013, 01:07 AM.
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                • #38
                  Re: Idea: Ultimate carby intake for B series motors.

                  Originally posted by BigElCat View Post
                  Pure methanol, eh? Why, I could make that myself....from the seed to the drippins

                  re-Fresh
                  You're in for a LOT of distilling!!!
                  It'd be too tempting.
                  I keep picturing homer Simpson when he imagines filling up a car that runs on beer.
                  "One for you, one for me. One for you. One for me"
                  :beer:
                  1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Idea: Ultimate carby intake for B series motors.

                    Originally posted by Movin View Post
                    The rich mixture required for meth would be more forgiving but some how we would need heat to keep it from freezing up.

                    I wonder if we could glue heater element wire in the bottom of the runners, inside in the air flow to stop fuel puddling. The heater blower motor resistor uses element wire like what might work.

                    That could fix the gasoline problem too.
                    I think that by the time you do that mod, and the odds of it working well, you could cut the flange off an old inlet manifold and weld new runners that don't sag.
                    I'd love to see a quad carb or quad throttle body setup done.
                    1988 MAZDA 121- B6T + G5MR SWAP IN PROGRESS.

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                    • #40
                      Wrap it with 110v heat tape, run a 12 to 110v A/C inverter, variable thermostat.
                      '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

                      '92 Geo Metro XFi

                      '87 Suzuki Samurai

                      '85 F150, modded 300cid

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by moz View Post
                        You're in for a LOT of distilling!!!
                        It'd be too tempting.
                        I don't drive much. The first test run would be WOT, and only a couple miles down the road
                        '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

                        '92 Geo Metro XFi

                        '87 Suzuki Samurai

                        '85 F150, modded 300cid

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                        • #42
                          Here's a possible solution to the intake manifold:

                          Take an EFI intake manifold...cut the runners off so they are some where around 2" tall. This would be above where they turn upward...TIG a round aluminum tube to the runners. The tube would have to have a diameter large enough to 'cover' the runner stubs. The actual length of the stubs would depend on the location carbs (one Mukini on each side). One carb would have to clear the alternator, the other would have to clear the brake booster. I think the plenum would be 2" in diameter, and straight.

                          I'll put some sketches on here tonight.
                          Last edited by BigElCat; 02-28-2013, 08:39 PM.
                          '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

                          '92 Geo Metro XFi

                          '87 Suzuki Samurai

                          '85 F150, modded 300cid

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                          • #43
                            Re: Idea: Ultimate carby intake for B series motors.

                            Hmmm could work I like the thinking.

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                            • #44
                              b series concept 2 001.jpg

                              I'm struggle with the uploads. Here's a crude one, feedback needed: Can you see it?

                              B series concept 1 001.jpgb series concept 3 001.jpg
                              Last edited by BigElCat; 02-28-2013, 10:48 PM.
                              '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

                              '92 Geo Metro XFi

                              '87 Suzuki Samurai

                              '85 F150, modded 300cid

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                              • #45
                                Yeah that could work.... i think that would be a decent straight shot to the head

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