2001 kia rio manual transmission swap?

[nitrofarm]

My transmission ended up being a 2001.

I forgot the starter and had to order one, so my install is on hold until next weekend.

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I think we should do a simple spread sheet of the parts needed. We def need the Kia starter correct? Or maybe the 1.8L EGT starter will work? I'm assuming from Shadetree's post that we MUST get the KIA Bell Housing bolts. A quick list would really help all who want to do this. Also you stated you are using the Rio axles. Are you running Aspire LCA's or are you going to run the KIA inner with the Festy outer portion? AXLE CHEAT SHEET

[JPT]

I think we should do a simple spread sheet of the parts needed. We def need the Kia starter correct? Or maybe the 1.8L EGT starter will work? I'm assuming from Shadetree's post that we MUST get the KIA Bell Housing bolts. A quick list would really help all who want to do this. Also you stated you are using the Rio axles. Are you running Aspire LCA's or are you going to run the KIA inner with the Festy outer portion? AXLE CHEAT SHEET

I have Rio axles, Rio hubs and Festiva LCAs. Don't know if I need a Rio starter or not, but I don't have any other, so I ordered what will definitely bolt up.

I also ordered new bolts (from here --> http://www.kiapartsnow.com) just in case.

[nitrofarm]

I have Rio axles, Rio hubs and Festiva LCAs. Don't know if I need a Rio starter or not, but I don't have any other, so I ordered what will definitely bolt up.

I also ordered new bolts (from here --> http://www.kiapartsnow.com) just in case.

Arent RIO axles in a FESTY TO LONG?

[JPT]

Arent RIO axles in a FESTY TO LONG?

Let's hope not.

I asked this same question about using 323/non-turbo Capri axles when swapping in an F series transmission (my original plan). For that swap, you use Festiva LCAs. Those axles are even longer.

Never did figure out what it is about the F series swap that lets you get away with "Too Long" 323 axles.

[nitrofarm]

Let's hope not.

I asked this same question about using 323/non-turbo Capri axles when swapping in an F series transmission (my original plan). For that swap, you use Festiva LCAs. Those axles are even longer.

Never did figure out what it is about the F series swap that lets you get away with "Too Long" 323 axles.

JPT Look at my Cheat Sheet that I linked it spells it out. ATX Festy ATX Aspire & F series all have basically the same diff. I'm almost certian your gonna run into problems if you dont try swapping the stubs or run the Capri xr2 axle setup. If you are doing this swap in an ASPIRE you could run stock RIO axles. But this is just all my opinion I haven't tried it yet.

[shadetree]

I used rio axles and a rio trans , f series six puck clutch and f series flywheel . It worked fine for me they were a little tight but I had no issue ! I'm finding after building many cars that all the bodies are different in the own little way . I've only done this rio swap one time and rolled the car. I sold the complete car to another forum member and he had to make some minor adjustments using the same mounts and crossmember ! He is still running the car today !

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JPT Look at my Cheat Sheet that I linked it spells it out. ATX Festy ATX Aspire & F series all have basically the same diff. I'm almost certian your gonna run into problems if you dont try swapping the stubs or run the Capri xr2 axle setup. If you are doing this swap in an ASPIRE you could run stock RIO axles. But this is just all my opinion I haven't tried it yet.

One of these days you should get a festy and aspire MTX axle side by side and look at the difference, pull the tripot bearing out and compare the shafts. The only thing different is the inner cv cup, aspires are about an inch (I say this lightly because I don't care exactly how much different) longer. Same goes for ATX axles, inner cv cup is the only difference! I haven't tried it yet but I'm gonna probably end up sticking an aspire axle in my festy because I already have it here ready to go and don't want to shell out 60$ for a new axle if I don't have to.

[shadetree]

You are correct that is the only difference the inner cup if you put aspire and festy axle side by side u will see the difference in the cup making the axle longer !

[nitrofarm]

You are correct that is the only difference the inner cup if you put aspire and festy axle side by side u will see the difference in the cup making the axle longer !

Thats why I was saying if JPT was to put the Festy axle ends into the RIO inner cup it should be factory fit,with no tightness and room to dial in some neg camber. At least that's how the math works out. Or put ASPIRE LCA's on the Festy and run RIO axles. Guys look at the chart. A RIO and ASPIRE MTX Axle's combined length are within 1/16 of an inch. Thats very close and that shorter 1/16" length of the RIO would make sense because of the thicker Diff that its tranny has. Just saying.....

[nitrofarm]

JPT hows it going with your trans swap?:?:

[JPT]

JPT hows it going with your trans swap?:?:

Starter didn't show up 'til late yesterday. RAIN FOR THE NEXT 6 DAYS (I work outside), so not doing it until NEXT weekend. :angry4:

[nitrofarm]

Starter didn't show up 'til late yesterday. RAIN FOR THE NEXT 6 DAYS (I work outside), so not doing it until NEXT weekend. :angry4:

Sorry....drool its raining like everyday here also.

[jason_]

I'm following this thread as well. raining here too. So more lathe work, and more progress on my 100ton log splitter....

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[nitrofarm]

I'm following this thread as well. raining here too. So more lathe work, and more progress on my 100ton log splitter....

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Where is "Here" Jason ?

[jason_]

The famous mitten.
30 miles north or so of grand Rapids.
Rained last night, sprinkled this morning so I don't dare gamble anything that's not water friendly unless it's certain.

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