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  • #16
    Originally posted by GenevaDirt View Post
    honestly Don...you are doing way more work then you need to. If you have 92 to 96 seats...then you oblong one of the rear mount holes and add a piece of barstock (with bolts, no welding) and that is it. The fronts match up.

    But you can do it any way that floats your boat...
    I'm not fond of the barstock method since a violent collision can allow the seat frame to buckle with only 3 mounts working.
    1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
    1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
    2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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    • #17
      Originally posted by FestYboy View Post
      ya know, it's been 6 years and i STILL havn't swapped in the EGT bottoms onto the festy seats in Scrappy... could it be?!?! i have too many projects?
      If you come to my house, you will see too many projects!
      Contact me for information about Festiva Madness!
      Remember, FestYboy is inflatable , and Scitzz means crazy, YO!
      "Like I'm going to suggest we do the job right." ~Fecomatter May 28 2016.

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      • #18
        I am now of the opinion that a man with a drill and 100 zip ties can do this swap and not have the offset seat, finding bar stock/welder and completely avoid the "oh dear Jesus a dumptruck!" sensation a wreck would cause.
        1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
        1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
        2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
          I am now of the opinion that a man with a drill and 100 zip ties can do this swap and not have the offset seat, finding bar stock/welder and completely avoid the "oh dear Jesus a dumptruck!" sensation a wreck would cause.
          it is a very solid connection...but if you welded it then it would be like it was meant to be in our cars.
          "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
          89L Silver EFI auto
          91GL Green Auto DD
          There ain't no rest for the wicked
          until we close our eyes for good.
          I will sleep when I die!
          I'm a little hunk of tin, nobody knows what shape I'm in. I've got four wheels and a running board, I'm not a Chevy, I'M A FORD!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GenevaDirt View Post
            it is a very solid connection...but if you welded it then it would be like it was meant to be in our cars.
            I'll time the driver seat swap, from seat out to seat in
            1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
            1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
            2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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            • #21
              The hardest part of any complete seat swap for a Festiva is the extreme offset in the height of the outer mounts as compared to the inner mounts. I presume that is because the seat controls are located on the side, rather than having a front bail bar. That is why I went with a combination of cutting some thick walled rectangular tube, welding and rivetting. The second biggest challenge was clearing the shifter handle by offseting the mount pads. Good luck gentlemen.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bravekozak View Post
                The hardest part of any complete seat swap for a Festiva is the extreme offset in the height of the outer mounts as compared to the inner mounts. I presume that is because the seat controls are located on the side, rather than having a front bail bar. That is why I went with a combination of cutting some thick walled rectangular tube, welding and rivetting. The second biggest challenge was clearing the shifter handle by offseting the mount pads. Good luck gentlemen.
                Prelude seats do not have an issue with height on either side
                "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
                89L Silver EFI auto
                91GL Green Auto DD
                There ain't no rest for the wicked
                until we close our eyes for good.
                I will sleep when I die!
                I'm a little hunk of tin, nobody knows what shape I'm in. I've got four wheels and a running board, I'm not a Chevy, I'M A FORD!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GenevaDirt View Post
                  Prelude seats do not have an issue with height on either side
                  Depends on the year. 88 and 89 Civic and 90-91 Civic also have different mount styles. I can't remember the year break for Preludes, but I think it's the generation break as well.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Christ View Post
                    Depends on the year. 88 and 89 Civic and 90-91 Civic also have different mount styles. I can't remember the year break for Preludes, but I think it's the generation break as well.
                    posted the years in post 13 above. Not talking Civic seats.
                    "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
                    89L Silver EFI auto
                    91GL Green Auto DD
                    There ain't no rest for the wicked
                    until we close our eyes for good.
                    I will sleep when I die!
                    I'm a little hunk of tin, nobody knows what shape I'm in. I've got four wheels and a running board, I'm not a Chevy, I'M A FORD!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bravekozak View Post
                      The hardest part of any complete seat swap for a Festiva is the extreme offset in the height of the outer mounts as compared to the inner mounts. I presume that is because the seat controls are located on the side, rather than having a front bail bar. That is why I went with a combination of cutting some thick walled rectangular tube, welding and rivetting. The second biggest challenge was clearing the shifter handle by offseting the mount pads. Good luck gentlemen.
                      Use Festiva frames and rails. Problem solved!
                      1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
                      1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
                      2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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                      • #26
                        There are a set of Prelude seats that require a mount adaptation to fit properly because there's a "bump" in the floor where they mount to the rear. That was my point when you said "Prelude seats don't require height modification" or something to that effect.

                        My point in mentioning the Civic seats was that Honda frequently changed things around mid-generation like that to keep up with changing safety standards and interior updates, and they may or may not have done that in the Prelude, although I believe the only change in seat frame arrangement for the Prelude came with the generation change.

                        Post #13 is a quote of someone else's post, and does not include a year designation, by the way. You mentioned '93 at one point, but I was replying to a post that was not year specific made by bravekozak about making a height adapter for a set of Prelude seats. I'm not positive, but the seat pictured there appears to be a 96+ seat, fifth generation, whereas the '93 you mentioned earlier is a 4th gen.

                        I guess that's clear enough now...
                        Last edited by Christ; 10-03-2012, 05:10 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Christ View Post
                          There are a set of Prelude seats that require a mount adaptation to fit properly because there's a "bump" in the floor where they mount to the rear. That was my point when you said "Prelude seats don't require height modification" or something to that effect.

                          My point in mentioning the Civic seats was that Honda frequently changed things around mid-generation like that to keep up with changing safety standards and interior updates, and they may or may not have done that in the Prelude, although I believe the only change in seat frame arrangement for the Prelude came with the generation change.

                          Post #13 is a quote of someone else's post, and does not include a year designation, by the way. You mentioned '93 at one point, but I was replying to a post that was not year specific made by bravekozak about making a height adapter for a set of Prelude seats. I'm not positive, but the seat pictured there appears to be a 96+ seat, fifth generation, whereas the '93 you mentioned earlier is a 4th gen.

                          I guess that's clear enough now...
                          mistated the post....it is #15 and those years do not require any height mod
                          "FLTG4LIFE" @FINALLEVEL , "PBH"
                          89L Silver EFI auto
                          91GL Green Auto DD
                          There ain't no rest for the wicked
                          until we close our eyes for good.
                          I will sleep when I die!
                          I'm a little hunk of tin, nobody knows what shape I'm in. I've got four wheels and a running board, I'm not a Chevy, I'M A FORD!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GenevaDirt View Post
                            mistated the post....it is #15 and those years do not require any height mod
                            Clarified. Thanks, I may go find a set soonish. I had 'em in one of my Hondas and loved em, especially the lumbar and side bolster adjustments.

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                            • #29
                              I'll post pics of the driver seat tonight, but I can go from a complete Prelude seat to complete Festy-framed Prelude seat in under an hour and a half. Will show some how-to stuff as well.
                              1989 Carby L: Stock. Slow.
                              1998 Mustang Cobra: ported heads, cams, longtubes, 4.30 gears
                              2016 Focus ST: daily driven go-kart

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                              • #30
                                Don, the seat in your pic is from a 3rd gen. I used 4th gen seats and they only required two small brackets and enlarge one hole a tiny bit. The seats not only look better but sit lower and give much more support from the side bolster.

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