finally making some traction bars...

[fastivaB6TG25MR]

its such a short distance. i have to find some female heim joints.

[nitrofarm]

its such a short distance. i have to find some female heim joints.

I was wondering how you were going to finish them... Love your Car/Fab work Bro. I'm wondering if WHEN you add the second Hiem joint.Will there be enough leverage to apply down force? (Beacuse your traction bars are very short) Good luck,not trying to be a Buzz Kill. Just trying to learn alongside you. Sub'd-

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I'm very interested in your work here, its good stuff. Is there any way you could take the frame mount back at least a few inches? That angle doesn't look like it will be as strong as a lesser angle (lesser angle being more of a straight pull) with more room between the heim joints. Maybe you could use an L bracket bolted or welded to the frame and the heim joint on the outside of that? Any way you do it is definately going to be an improvement for sure tho!

[shadetree]

My thoughts were to run brackets back from the sway bar as well ,but the work has to be held in a very small location . My first thought was moving them back farther would be better ,any upper angle at all will give down force . The only problem I see is an extreme caster roll during shifting . So I really think you are better off staying as short as possible . Good work, keep it up ill be watching .

[jfruauff]

Yeah if it didnt put a joint on both ends you could risk it breaking if you had to much wheel hop. I had a similar setup on my srt4 from frame to lower control arm they helped a lot.

[fastivaB6TG25MR]

im not doing it to correct wheel hop. im doing it to maintain steering geometry during hard cornering by preventing the sway bar from shifting

[rollertoaster]

That's the spirit! Mostly everyone is concerned with straight line speed. All I care about is handling and enough power to get it up to speed.


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[DriverOne]

im not doing it to correct wheel hop. im doing it to maintain steering geometry during hard cornering by preventing the sway bar from shifting

:hello1: Finally!!!!! Someone who likes corners too! Why not grind down the sway bar to stock Festy size at the front mounts and use the original bushings?

[M3NTAL]

Welding something to the lower radiator support ?

My Honda buddy says he's seen some Honda's actually bend the front rad support by trying to reinforce it. I think on a Festiva it will be ok because....FESTIVA !! Nuff' said!

[gorgonheimer]

The front core support is where motor mounts attach also. I think it is strong enough

[nitrofarm]

im not doing it to correct wheel hop. im doing it to maintain steering geometry during hard cornering by preventing the sway bar from shifting

This is why I was inquiring a couple months ago about lowering/raising the sway bar attcah points.I think if you search anti squat.You'll kinda see where I was going with it. Even a small amount of shimming should see some change in the handling.(It my little brain)
The only thing is everything is a compromise. Change "On power" traction coming out of corner.Will also change "Off Power" "Turn In".

[fastivaB6TG25MR]

:hello1: Finally!!!!! Someone who likes corners too! Why not grind down the sway bar to stock Festy size at the front mounts and use the original bushings?

i think youre onto something sir... here is my problem.... i took this while driving around 40mph on a flat straight road. hard corners make my front end "shift" gone over every bolt and everything is tight... sorry for the crappy quality

http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj146/aintnobitch/?action=view&current=0223103820.mp4

[nitrofarm]

i think youre onto something sir... here is my problem.... i took this while driving around 40mph on a flat straight road. hard corners make my front end "shift" gone over every bolt and everything is tight... sorry for the crappy quality

http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...0223103820.mp4

Jack the car up and have someone or something hold the steering wheel. Grab the tire at 6 & 3 and start shaking the tire. You should find your "Play". A worn rack gear or pinion gear can be VERY hard to isolate.Could also be wheel bearing preload. Both of the above can be hard to isolate because they dont always make noise.

[fastivaB6TG25MR]

i turned the wheel to simulate a hard turn... notice after the jerk the wheel is off by alot to the right... im driving the whole time

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I had that start happening in my minivan, jacked it up one day to do someting and the driver side sway bar mount was missing a nut and the other one was halfway off. Maybe it's time for some new sway bar/frame bushings?


You could like spray paint or mark the sway bar on each side of the bushings to check to see if it's the problem..