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Has anyone ever considered making an adapter plate to change out rear axle stubs?

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  • #16
    Re: Has anyone ever considered making an adapter plate to change out rear axle stubs?

    Holy crap!!!! Found one NOS for $407!
    Last edited by Huli; 02-14-2013, 08:29 PM.
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    • #17
      Re: Has anyone ever considered making an adapter plate to change out rear axle stubs?

      Same timkin part number as Geo Storm. That should be easier to find
      HULi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Any-where, any-way, any-time.
      "CL4P-TP" - 93 Festiva L

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      • #18
        On the picture the mounting pattern seems to be square? On both Festiva and Aspire, the pattern is not square at all...
        rusEfi - DIY ECU
        93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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        • #19
          84-87 Civic/CRX had beam axles, Integra to 89 I think. All of them will have a larger track width and mounting locations than Festiva. Any MKII Vw will also. MKI VW may be similar width, mounting points will be [obviously] different as will trail length.

          After 87/89, Civic, CRX, and Integra all went to dual trailing arm independent rear suspension. The Civic Si and some Integras came with rear discs, CRX Si came with rear discs in the second gen.

          There are some of the first gen CRX that may have come with rear discs, been awhile since i worked with them, so I can't remember.

          Many Geo Storm GSi and Stylus GT had discs, everything else I believe was drums. All but the AWD versions I believe have suspension similar to a Festiva, but again, been awhile.

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          • #20
            I've noticed a lot of cars have a similar suspension to the Escorts, instead of a beam they have IRS. Has anyone ever looked into getting rid of the rear beam?
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            • #21
              The rear beam is great for hatches, the Golf GTI used it for years, from what I know if done correctly it's better for FWD. Not to mention you can get that lovely lift-off oversteer.
              Owner of:
              1991 Red Festiva L, 5 speed (Swagger Wagon)
              In progress:
              BP+G25MR swap, Kia rio axles hopefully.

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              • #22
                Re: Has anyone ever considered making an adapter plate to change out rear axle stubs?

                I looked at the mounting for the shaft. Bolt pattern really won't matter because you will need to cut out the current mounting plate anyway in order to have the caliper mount. You could plate over, but that would push the wheel out about 1/2 inch.

                No matter what its going to need welding to be safe
                HULi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Any-where, any-way, any-time.
                "CL4P-TP" - 93 Festiva L

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Huli View Post
                  I looked at the mounting for the shaft. Bolt pattern really won't matter because you will need to cut out the current mounting plate anyway in order to have the caliper mount. You could plate over, but that would push the wheel out about 1/2 inch.

                  No matter what its going to need welding to be safe
                  I do not agree. I believe it's safer to have the wheels 1/2 inch out (less than that because you subtract original back plate thickness) and bolts the caliper to a plate bolted with stock bolts than to cut & weld something totally custom.
                  rusEfi - DIY ECU
                  93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                  • #24
                    call me crazy, but if you're going to be cutting/welding, wouldnt it be easier to just fill the bolt holes on your stub of choice and redrill with the desired spacing? mk1 vw's have stub axles that should be roughly dimensionally equal. if the bolt pattern's off just fill the vw holes, rotate assembly a few degrees and drill/tap new holes with the fes/aspire pattern (rotate just because welds will eat your drill bits right quick)

                    i could be wrong, but that seems like the easiest solution... then you can have 4x100 and a wide variety of brake options.
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                    • #25
                      Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Has anyone ever considered making an adapter plate to change out rear axle stubs?

                        Sorry, I am a welder by trade. Have great confidence in my fab skills. I am contemplating building a tube frame four link rear.

                        I would much rather fab up new ends then plug weld/grind/redrill then plate. Too many variables in that method. Would be easier though
                        Last edited by Huli; 02-23-2013, 07:55 PM.
                        HULi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Any-where, any-way, any-time.
                        "CL4P-TP" - 93 Festiva L

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                        • #27
                          You could actually just cut the bolt pattern out as a plate from both rear spars and weld the new pattern into the Festiva's trailing arm, if you're that good with your welding. Save a lot of work there.

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                          • #28
                            Im not sure if this could be of any use but here goes: http://mechdb.com/index.php/Ford_Esc...ake_conversion
                            91' Festiva GL Auto EFI--- BP swapped, G-Series swap in the works.
                            Adjustable VW MK2 front suspension and Aspire disc brakes
                            Aspire rear axle and drum swapped with adjustable KYB rear suspension

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                            • #29
                              sorry to bump a dead thread, but I've been mulling around with the idea of golf stub axles and rear disks on the back of a Festiva for years...even started to draw something up in solidworks once upon a time (when i still had access to solidworks that is). It just seems like a darn decent idea, the parts aren't that expensive...probably cheaper than Festiva replacements anyway (no idea if that's even remotely accurate... I've been drinking)

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                              • #30
                                Funny thing is, I have a MKIII Golf GTI VR6 in my backyard.
                                1963 Fairlane - future NSS drag car
                                1965 Mustang Coupe - A-code car, restoring for/with my son
                                1973 F100 longbed - only 22k original miles, 360/auto, disk, PS/PB dealer in dash A/C
                                1996 Sonoma X-cab - son's DD
                                2002 Grand Prix - daughter's DD
                                2003 Sport Trac - 180k, 130k on replaced motor with new timing chains - F/S soon.
                                2005 Accord - wife's DD
                                2008 Mountaineer - step daughter's DD
                                2015 F150 SCrew - DD

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