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  • That is a sexy looking engine bay!! Very well done Marcus, good luck with the first start up

    1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
    1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
    2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

    1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

    If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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    • Originally posted by Damkid View Post
      That is a sexy looking engine bay!! Very well done Marcus, good luck with the first start up
      Thank you !! I still need to figure out a cable to hydro link. Didnt you use to make something for that ??
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      The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

      Link to my festiva pictures below
      https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
      Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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      • Yes but I never was really satisfied with the brackets, plus I could never fully test them out for long term use

        1988 323 Station Wagon - KLG4 swapped
        1988 323 GT - B6T Powered
        2008 Ford Escape - Rollover Survivor

        1990 Festiva - First Ever Completed KLZE swap (SOLD)

        If no one from the future stops you from doing it, how bad of a decision can it really be?

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        • Originally posted by Damkid View Post
          Yes but I never was really satisfied with the brackets, plus I could never fully test them out for long term use
          Well lets go, back to the drawing board...I need one :p
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          The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

          Link to my festiva pictures below
          https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
          Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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          • While I really like the intake piping in it's home-made style, I have to tell you that it's introducing a serious restriction to flow in the pair of 90's near the throttle body.

            A 90* bend like that cuts flow by a significant amount, increasing with increased velocity.

            You might be much better off getting a 180* U-bend of mandrel pipe in the same diameter and painting it black to match, or reconfiguring your intake piping to delete those bends.

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            • Originally posted by Christ View Post
              You might be much better off getting a 180* U-bend of mandrel pipe in the same diameter and painting it black to match, or reconfiguring your intake piping to delete those bends.
              Some thing like this ? I wonder if I went to a muffler shop if they would make the whole piping from the VAF to the intake mani.

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              The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

              Link to my festiva pictures below
              https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
              Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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              • ^ that's the idea, though i wonder if HomeSchlepo or Howes would have that available in PVC?
                Trees aren't kind to me...

                currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
                94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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                • I would think Home de Pot or other box stores would carry a one eighty in PVC, like the trap under your sink or whatnot. Should be a clean and easy solution.
                  ENFORCER - Midwest Festiva Inc., Iowa

                  #1 '90 Sport to modified Lx - RollazX
                  #2 .....Cheesehead
                  #3 '91 White - Donor Car
                  #4 .....Montana Project
                  SOLD----Levistiva for $1500
                  Bought her back for $450
                  Now that's darn near priceless!!

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                  • Yes, if you can find a 2" sink trap there, use that. You need a "J", not a "P" trap.

                    Either that, or you can probably have the muffler shop grab a 180 and make the rest of the pipe. Most McMufflers can't do 180 bends. They can hardly do 90's without crushing the pipe into a flat section.

                    Something else you can try... if you can get another BP manifold - Cut off the opposite end, weld an alum plate back on. Drill the hole for the TB and studs, and mount it on the other end.

                    HOWEVER - This makes a fairly nice, straight intake path, keeping things neat. But (isn't there always one?) if you do this, you'll need 1. a fairly thick plate and 2. to port that plate to no more than 12* continuous angle from small inlet to large outlet, else you'll have yet another flow restriction there, because air will attempt to expand too quickly and lose velocity at the entrance to the plenum, causing a "stacking" effect aft of the throttle plate.
                    Last edited by Christ; 05-15-2012, 03:30 PM.

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                    • That $14 180 on eBay is a good price for a one-time buy. I'd go on that, then get whatever pieces you need from the scrap pile out back of your garage. You're likely to sand and paint them anyway, so surface rust etc won't matter, and you can use the PVC unions or get silicone couplers to mate everything up.

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                      • You have a nice set up in your place!
                        I am so jealous!!
                        Nice work too!
                        "Today, no American family can be secure against the danger that one of its children may decide to become an artist"

                        -Garrison Keillor

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                        • I know it's a lot more work, but I would be tempted to switch to a smaller battery and move it to the spot where the original air box was. Maybe using a custom stainless battery tray. Then, put the VAF meter where the battery was and run a small cone filter. Much more efficient in terms of air flow and use of space. I think it would be well worth the added effort..............especially considering how beautiful your engine bay looks! I smell another FOTM winner.

                          You may think you're going slow......but you could probably do 4 BP swaps in the time I'm taking to do a simple B6 rebuild & swap!
                          Brian

                          93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
                          04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
                          62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC

                          1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
                          Not enough time or money for any of them

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                          • Originally posted by blkfordsedan View Post
                            I know it's a lot more work, but I would be tempted to switch to a smaller battery and move it to the spot where the original air box was. Maybe using a custom stainless battery tray. Then, put the VAF meter where the battery was and run a small cone filter. Much more efficient in terms of air flow and use of space. I think it would be well worth the added effort..............especially considering how beautiful your engine bay looks! I smell another FOTM winner.

                            You may think you're going slow......but you could probably do 4 BP swaps in the time I'm taking to do a simple B6 rebuild & swap!
                            There are also several types of batteries that could use the wasted area under the seats, leaving a much cleaner engine bay.

                            As well, there's the "in the trunk" mod, and if you're running a full interior, two motorcycle batteries fit well behind the rear trim plastic. The smaller L/G batteries may also fit there, but I wouldn't waste money to find out.

                            I believe there's also room behind the console where the Mazda ECM generally is for a small battery.

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                            • Straight airflow into the throttle body is by far the best. A battery relocation isn't too hard to do.

                              This is a full size 24N battery in back of Festus. It uses a plastic boat box inside the stainless outer box. Notice the battery disconnect switch behind the passenger side seat.


                              I read Advancedynamix's thread on maxxing out the Festiva for handling. He said keep as much weight as far foward on the car as possible. I understand the theory, but in my application, this set up does great.

                              I have the Aspire struts and springs on back, so that would make a difference.
                              Last edited by BigElCat; 05-15-2012, 09:27 PM.
                              '88 Festiva L, stock carby engine (with exhaust upgrade), 4 speed tranny. Aspire Struts and Springs, Capri 14" wheels, interior gutted, battery in back

                              '92 Geo Metro XFi

                              '87 Suzuki Samurai

                              '85 F150, modded 300cid

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                              • The latest development from Snagsville Missouri

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                                The Don - Midwest Festiva Inc., Missouri Chapter

                                Link to my festiva pictures below
                                https://fordfestiva.com/forums/album.php?albumid=10
                                Celebrating 25 years of festiva(s) ownership.

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