rmoltis build thread 96 aspire

[Gomez]

Are you sure it didn't say 44-80 in/lbs. Even 44 lbs on a vc sounds like was waaaay too much. Lol looks good dude!

[rmoltis]

Your right! I though I read it right.
Usually I try and be as careful as possible.
But something as little as a misread messed me up.
I guess we all make mistakes
But it would be nice if it wasn't me :-/

[kumalaba]

that vc looks killer!

[rmoltis]

It makes the rest of the engine bay look filthy lol!
Have to clean it one of these days


On the plus side I took the valve cover off again
The Bolt that was broken off.
Had enough bolt sticking above the surface for me to grab with a pair of vice grips.
And break loose.

So now everything is back together minus 6 new grade 10.9 steel bolts which I will be ordering/getting through fastenal on Monday.
To replace all the old stressed bolts.

One of them had that stretched hourglass shape to it ready to be the next to go :-D

[Flyin4stroke]

I'm surprised it didn't leak from squishing the gasket out.

[rmoltis]

44-80 in-lbs is equivalent to 5-9ft lbs.
I had the digital torque wrench set to 20ft-lb
But on the digital readout the bolt snapped at 15ft lbs.


So the Gasket didn't get squished out!
It was only like 5-6 ft-lbs over spec and only on that one bolt.
The rest were sitting at 10-12 waiting for the second round of torque down.

So the felpro gasket was pretty thick and didn't really get squished..
The bolts were just really skinny.

[Flyin4stroke]

rmoltis build thread 96 aspire

I just wonder how you take a digital wrench to a little bolt like that and expect to get 20ft lbs out of it. Read it wrong or not you can feel the metal stretching. Visually you can see the cover sealing to the head.

[rmoltis]

It's rated for 5-100 ft lbs.
It's snap on and it is brand new
It was like a $500 tq wrench.
It also does inch lbs.
And I understand there's a certain accuracy range to it.

I misread the factory shop manual not the torque wrench.
I assumed it needed ft-lbs not inch lbs.

So I felt the tension.
But whenever I torque down any bolt.
I always feel its too tight.
But I go by the suggested specs to be used rather than how I feel.

The only difference this time is I assumed the manual said ft-lbs instead of inch lbs.
Or else I would have used the in-lbs setting instead.

[rmoltis]

I was reading the manual of this digital torque wrench and its pretty accurate.

The accuracy range between 5-9% of full scale which is 5-13.55ft lbs
Is +/-8%cw & +/- 10% ccw.

Which means at 5ft lbs clockwise which is where ill tighten it next time it would actually be 4.6-5.4ft-lbs.

Between 10-19% of full scale which is 14.5-23.05ft-lbs
+/-4% cw & +/-6%ccw
Which at 14.5 ft-lbs clockwise would actually be 13.92-15.08ft-lbs

And between 20-%100 of full scale which is 24-100ft lbs is
+/-2%cw & +/-3%ccw
Which at 24 ft-lbs clockwise would actually be 23.52-24.48 ft-lbs.

Here is the model I'm using on snap-ons website.

http://store.snapon.com/TECHANGLE-Models-2-Accuracy-Ratcheting-Flex-Head-Torque-Wrench-Electronic-TECHANGLE-174-Flex-Ratchet-5-to-100-ft-lbs-3-8-drive-P759379.aspx

so even in the lower range of its use I am still satisfied with the readings I get from it. It's got fresh batteries and is still brand new.
I just need to pay attention next time.

Here

[rmoltis]

Got some new grade 10.9 zinc coated steel bolts.
To replace the 18yr old originals
So not only are they stronger than before
But they are more resistant to rusting in this salty a** state.
I also got them about 5mm shorter because the old ones were just threadless that last 5mm.

So now they go on at 44-80in-lbs.
And no more prblems ever again.



Also they were only $5 ordered through fastenal.

[rmoltis]

Went ahead and got everything installed.
The bolts were nice and sturdy.

I set the torque wrench to 80in-lbs.
And man was I suprised how light it was.

It made me think... Man is this tight enough?
If I tried to tighten by hand I probably would have over tightened the bolt.
But its right.

Let it warm up and melted the layers of snow that had turned to ice over the past week+.
The car had a complete layer of ice over it.
I thought I was going to break the door handle off trying to pull it open.
Had to crack the ice around the door by pushing on the door to get it to move in and out. And once broken I had to let it warm up for a bit to create a layer of melted ice between the car and the ice itself.

Then after 20 mins of warming up the cabin I was able to slide the ice off in sheets.the ice on the roof and hood all came off as one piece. It was kinda fun.
And had to roll down the windows and pop the ice out from the inside.











Last but not least the ice front air dam :-)

[redspire]

What are those bolts for?

[rmoltis]

If you read back a few posts.
It describes how.
I had my valve cover powdercoated.
And after reinstallation.
I went to look at the torque specs in the fsm and confused 44-80in-lbs with ft-lbs and broke a bolt.
So I reordered a new set of 6 bolts to replace all of the 18 year old originals.

[redspire]

Lol my bad, i did the same thing!

[redspire]

Where did you find the new PCV Valve Gaskets?!?!? I tore one up on a valve cover awhile back and would like to get a replacement without going to the JY