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When my 91' roamed the streets the local SHO crowd decided it would be great fun to make fun of my ride one night at the local cruise spot. Having the pride in my car that I did I couldn't let them run thier mouths unchecked. After popping my hood and showing them how my airhorns worked they laughed. When I said I would walk any one of thier SHO's, I was presented with MORE laughter. Not one of the 4 cars there had anything more than a muffler or a CAI between them. But they figured my little festiva with the body kit and 12" wheels was fun to pick on. Now anything done to my car was internal, BIG PNP(intake,head,exhaust manifold) with 3 angled valves, a healthy dose of timing, fuel pump and regulator and a panel filter. It looked COMPLETELY stock. It took about 20 minutes for them to goad one another enough to race me. We went to a obscure area followed by about 20 other people who wanted to see this go down. I lined up with a silver 91' first. The flagger lined us up. This kid was flat out talking some sh*t out his window at me. So much in fact that he missed the flag drop. I took him off of the line and ran it out to 4th. He was at least 4-5 cars behind me TRYING to catch up. Didn't happen. Went back and listened to everyone pick on the kid for losing to a 'grocery getter'. His buddy with a black 89' decided he was gonna shut me down. He was alot more serious than his buddy. We lined up and went. He got me off of the line until I shifted to second and caught up and then started to pull away. I led him by about 2 cars across the finish line. Back at the start people are starting to laugh at the guys with the SHO's. I don't have enough time to get out of my car before another SHO driver says 'I never lost a race and it ain't changing tonight.' Off to the line we go. We line up and the flagger drops... We run off of the line with him spinning his tires. I shift to second and grab pavement and start pulling. He is trying to hook up, but when he shifted to second he kept spinning. When I am at about 65-70 MPH I notice he has just stopped. I finish and turn around to see what is going on. Apparantly he spun his tire so much he blew one. So much for not ever losing a race. The fourth SHO guy said he needed to help his buddy change his tire so he could get home instead of racing me.
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Fast, fun and good gas mileage. 91' Festiva(RIP) and 96' Aspire(RIP). The website is no more. -
hell yea
Don't you just love it when you stomp on people with your festiva. The emotions on the faces of people that just lost to a ford festiva are worth all the blood sweat and tears put into our festivas. But watch out my friend had a SHO with good rubber and $3000 under the hood, his car was wicked. he beat all kind of stuff. that car had some serious torque. you won't beat SHO's on the top end, the yamaha engine was well designed with the extra air valves that open at 4,000rpm's. To bad Ford installed some shitty parts with such a good engine.1989 B6T Festiva...... it is a constant work in progress. -
More like installed some shitty parts in the form of an entire car around the Yamaha engine. Yamaha should have given that car to a deserving car company.
festivagt, what does your car run in the 1/4 mile?* Retired Festiva-er*
1990 Festiva - The Once Fastest Red 1990 Festiva LX on this site! - now in more dedicated hands!
B6T'ing since May 2002...
Disclaimer: I'm a dick, deal with it.Comment
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its not a yamaha engine, only yamaha heads and intake. Its a Vulcan based 3.0 from the base Taurus (german engine)Jim DeAngelis
kittens give Morbo gas!!
Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)Comment
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Wrong.Originally posted by FB71
The V6 SHO's were all Yamaha my friend.
Yamaha Decided against using the ford block for one simple reason, It was trash, the V6 SHO's (89-95) Were all yamaha.
However in 1996, when ford came out with the new SHO (The generation 3) with the DOHC 32 Valve V8, it was infact a ford block, with yamaha Heads.
Your car must be damn fast to Romp on SHO's like you claim to, Nice kills,-Sam
1992 Taurus SHO MTX
-Bolt on's/Tokiko's/Gutted
1996 Vector performance SHO V8
-Exhaust/Brakes/Exhaust/Wheels/Lowered/Featured in Motortrend Magazine 12/96Comment
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I hope if and when this happens by some freak accident, you treasure it. Because it will most likely never ever happen again.Don't you just love it when you stomp on people with your festiva. The emotions on the faces of people that just lost to a ford festiva are worth all the blood sweat and tears put into our festivas.
......Said the festiva driver. :lol:More like installed some shitty parts in the form of an entire car around the Yamaha engine. Yamaha should have given that car to a deserving car company.
BTW, nice title to the thread. :roll:
RobComment
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Unless you were driving a SHOgun, I'm going to say it never happened.
It's nice to think about though.
V6 SHO = ALL YAMAHAComment
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that's funny. that Yamaha engineer I spoke with at Ford's Dearborn proving ground must have been wrong, then...Originally posted by SHOspazz92
Since he told me it was the other way around.....Jim DeAngelis
kittens give Morbo gas!!
Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)Comment
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Yup, he was wrong then.
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Even the Helm's manual, which is used by the Ford dealers, states that the motor was built by Yamaha in Japan.Comment
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yup, I know all about Helm, and SPX/OTC/ValleyForge. (I used to work for Ford)
you are correct, the engine was fully built by Yamaha.
BUT, the block is based on the Vulcan 3.0 pushrod engine.
this is not to say that a SHO engine is just a Vulcan block w/ Yam parts tacked on.
Yamaha started with a Vulcan block, and evolved it into the SHO.
from my understanding, the v8 SHO was fully architectured by Yamaha.Jim DeAngelis
kittens give Morbo gas!!
Bright Blue 93 GL (1.6 8v, 5spd) (Hula-Baloo)
Performance Red 94 Aspire SE (Stimpson)Comment
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It wouldn't be the first time an "expert" was wrong. Seriously, there are few cars that spawn as much misinformation as the V6 SHO. One of the reasons I like 'emOriginally posted by FB71
Spend some time in the SHO community and you'll hear everything from turbo 4 cylinder, 5.0 V8, twin turbo V6, built by Kawasaki, originally made 400 horsepower, etc. And after 7 years and 8 different SHO's I'm still quite surprised at how little Ford dealers, mechanics and even engineers know about this engine. Since we drive the only two models to ever originally share this engine (which IMO is pretty damn cool) let me help set the record straight. This knowledge comes from a variety of sources and has been accumulated over quite a few years, to help separate fact from fiction.
The Yamahammer V6 was indeed built 100% by Yamaha in Japan. The block shares the basic dimensions of the Vulcan but that is all... the engine is it's own entity and is 100% rice :lol:
It was assembled in Japan, crated and shipped to Atlanta GA where it was dropped into the Taurus. IIRC the techs at the plant weren't even supposed to mess with the engine, just install them.
There is rumor that the engine in prototype form made a N/A 300 horsepower. To date that rumor has not been verified, and I don't believe anyone has achieved this number from a 3.0 without forced induction or Nitrous.
As I said, there are few other engines that come with such an aura of misinformation as this one. Even experts, engineers, mechanics etc. don't always get it right. Hell, look in the owners manual for a second generation Taurus SHO and there are instructions on when to change the supercharger oil :lol: Thing is... so much time as passed since the original development of this engine it's tough to get to the truth.
I can't comment too much on the V8, as my knowledge with those engines isn't as thorough as the V6. I'd originally been told the block was Yamaha with the heads being Ford (which makes sense since the cams are the only weak spot on that engine) but most people in the SHO community say the opposite... the block is Ford (actually a 2.5L duratec with an extra set of cylinders, and doing the math you get 3.4L which is the displacement for the V8 ) and Yamaha engineered heads. In any case, the V8 is definitely a hybrid product.
In closing, MTX SHO's (89-95) run high 14's to low 15's stock. ATX V6's & V8's (93-99) run low to mid 15's stock. I too don't see a Festiva taking a SHO unless there's an engine swap of some kind involved, or the SHO driver had only three cylinders and absolutely no driving skill.
BTW, SHOguns rule all 8)Comment
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My buddy has a clean stock 93 V6 ATX SHO ( less than 80k ) and my B6 sohc Festiva would barely keep up with it. I haven't tried since I added the header and 1.6 ecu. MY BP (1.8 dohc) ATX Festiva beats him every time unless I don't manually shift.
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Holy Crap attack of the SHO forums! I find it funny ppl jump forums just to defend a car THAT WOULD LOSE TO MY FESTIVA, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK!
By the way I do like the SHO. Well the engine that is!
Thanks :wink:Comment
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I'll race your Festiva.... But you won't win...Comment
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you were doing 68mph when you looked back at him when he was stopped?.....most sho's stock can run 68mph in third gear @ 4000rpm i find this story a bit smelly if you knlow what i mean...you sure they weren't normal 4cyl tauruses?
have you ever tried to race a mustang before (5.0)got a yamahammerComment
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