Rode in a 426hp 4th gen camaro

[Dragonhealer]

^ well that pretty much covers it, but if you have need of classier accomadations, there are 3 hotels in the small town of Willcox, for more class (and $) there are Casitas at the track.
we stock 87,91, and 100 octane unleaded as well as E-85 and Methanol. If your car requires 110 leaded, we have that too, but at the shop not the track.
Time with us can be cheaper than track days, or more expensive if you want to go whole hog.
PM for details, but right now I'm loadind up for Wild Horse Pass Motorsports Park in Phoenix this weekend!
Yes, offer open to all responsible Forum members, bring your car if you can! Our only rental Festiva currently is Cauldron, and that is a right hand full!

[likeJIF]

All sounds awesome, I may have to get with you on this offer, I have Marine friends that live in AZ and I'm sure they wouldn't mind me staying with them for a wknd. (If that offer stands for me also)

[Advancedynamix]

That offer open to all forum members? I'm going to be in az 4/26-5/8 without festiva though.

Mind driving a Mazda2?

GMR originally toyed with the idea of using Festiva trainer cars, but they are too valuable for a proper student vehicle. Getting used to driving the 2 will help with driving the festiva. Ryal has come up with some tricks to make the 2 handle like a festiva that's being driven at 10/10 without the ridiculous speeds.

[Advancedynamix]

Gila Monster Racing has a performance driving school with very nice accommodations.

Classy enough to fly your private jet in and take your vintage Ferrari for a morning cruise, but down to earth enough to be the proving grounds for the coilover system that is talked about so much on this website.

It's not uncommon to see this type of thing out on the track. Yes, that's a real gt40, and yes it's dusty from being driven hard. What museum will provide you with a chance to get close to one of these while sliding sideways at 100mph in your festiva?

Plenty of room for a sleep over if your idea of a 4 post bed is something like this.

[errjam]

uh,, how do I get in on this??
price ect.

[shorestiva]

That offer open to all forum members? I'm going to be in az 4/26-5/8 without festiva though.

[william]

^ I'M ON MY WAY! lol

[Dragonhealer]

If you want to ramp up fast, and have the time and energy, you are welcom to come down to our track outside of Willcox AZ. We can put you up at the track and you can get a huge amount of track time with the best FWD coaches in AZ, and we provide full support. Seat time and a good coach is everything!

[Advancedynamix]

Can you give a few types of corners and how you would hit them in the festy? I know theres way more to it then that but im new so i dont need much. Im just trying to get an idea of the lines you speak of. It sounds like a good time

We can write about this until we're inventing new words and still not do as much good as a day of seat time. Make your car run and drive it in a safe place where you wont risk killing anyone or getting arrested. After you do that and you need more help, I'll be more than happy to give you tips. You need a big, wide area where there is nothing to hit. Strap yourself in really good, cause this is going to get intense. Keep coming into turns faster and faster with no brakes until the car slides. If the front is pushing, something is wrong. If the back swings out, catch it with smooth throttle input. Do that until you are bored of it and then do it faster and faster.
Disclaimer: you will lose control of the car several times while doing this. You may crash, you may flip over, you may get hurt. DO NOT INVOLVE OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES OR PROPERTY IN THIS PRACTICE.

[Advancedynamix]

I use adjustable end links in the NA to keep my angle between end link and sway bar at 90 degrees as well as end link to LCA

Otherwise, after lowering, susp. Angles are way off and your scrub radius is affected. EDIT: might be mixing concepts here.. if so, please correct me

Yeah. Apples and peas. Lol. The Festiva front sway bar and rear beam both act as trailing links. They both work their best when the theoretical centerline of the fulcrum and wheel are close to horizontal. The optimal relation in the front being, wheel centerline a few degrees before the theoretical horizon (congruent to vehicle rake).
Basically, a trailing link that's angled downward (to the trailing direction) is not only better at absorbing bumps than an A arm, it also works to leverage the tire into the driving surface with TQ load. The added bonus with the Festiva is that the front sway bar is also a shock absorbing trailing link. For such a cheesy design, it's got to be one of the most brilliant systems I've worked with. So much in fact, it intimidates me to modify because it works so well as is. I just want to move the whole mess upwards to lower CG and raise roll center.

[likeJIF]

Man this is great, I am eating this all up, Gorgenheim where are you? I can't wait to get back into the Festiva after we get a new engine, adjust the rear camber, put the rear diffuser on, and fix the front splitter. Although the Miata will be fun for this coming Lemons event, I am excited to have the Tick back on the road in the near future if its possible. (and drive my "new" Festiva once the B6 is dropped in, need to get suspension though)

[RdstrBlk]

I use adjustable end links in the NA to keep my angle between end link and sway bar at 90 degrees as well as end link to LCA

Otherwise, after lowering, susp. Angles are way off and your scrub radius is affected. EDIT: might be mixing concepts here.. if so, please correct me

[mikemounlio]

I don't left foot brake when I'm driving any of my Festivas on the track. A slight throttle lift is all that's needed to set the front. Oversteer comes from lifting off the throttle a bit and then I counter it with throttle.
More power is a necessity. The stock b3 has trouble pulling the car out of a slide, so that means you can't come in as hot. If your having problems with understeer, come in hotter and use less brake. Some times I come in to corners so hot that I think there is no way on earth the car is going to turn, and it turns in great.
A festiva can use any line on the track effectively, but the fastest line is going to be really weird. It all depends on the corner itself, but I can promise you that most driver instructors will criticize your line until they realise that you are eating their corvettes back bumper in every corner, lol. I've been told several times that I'm unsafe on the track because of my lines and how I use them, by folks who think they know how to drive fast. I've yet to see any of them catch up to me after I've passed them in my Festiva.

Can you give a few types of corners and how you would hit them in the festy? I know theres way more to it then that but im new so i dont need much. Im just trying to get an idea of the lines you speak of. It sounds like a good time

[Advancedynamix]

Nice to know.. I think we are really breaking ground with FWD load balancing with modified racing lines and habits

Yeah. There is something unique about these cars. The front suspension works well and the car is so light and rigid.
Do you know your front spring rate?
Also, if your ride height is too low the car will not turn in like it would with a higher ride height. The sway bar angle is critical. You'd think a lower center of gravity would be worth the less than optimal suspension angles, but several of us have discovered this to be untrue.

[Advancedynamix]

Momentum momentum momentum. Very little braking. Not enough power for slow in fast out so yes my lines are scary and dangerous

Ill update my build thread soon. Sorry yall! Just wanted to keep contributing to this very awesome threadjacked conversation

Haha! I love it! We need to get together and scare them twice as much!