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  • #76
    OK, one more fuel up!
    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
    '92 Aqua parts Car
    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
    Your holy ghost will not save you.
    Your God plutonium will not save you.
    In fact...
    ...You will not be saved!"

    Prince of Darkness -1987

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    • #77
      I will post some picks of my interior mirrors (I have one HUGE rear-view mirror, and two smaller convex mirrors on the sides). I have no exterior mirrors at all.....

      As for the drag at 50mph, check out this graph, and keep in mind it is in kmh (50mph = 80kmh)http://www.aeva.asn.au/forums/upload...r_vs_speed.gif

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      • #78
        Did you get one of those big truck mirrors they have at Canadian Tire? Hahaha! PS - Darlo, have you done any research/experimenting with plastic sheet yet?
        Last edited by Aaronbrook37; 10-29-2010, 10:33 AM.
        1988 Chevy Sprint Turbo 997cc

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Darlo View Post
          As for the drag at 50mph, check out this graph, and keep in mind it is in kmh (50mph = 80kmh)http://www.aeva.asn.au/forums/upload...r_vs_speed.gif
          Now that's interesting below 50 mph/80kph your rolling resistance is more than your air resistance. Where as in my case having to operate at 60mph/95Kph they contribute nearly equally to total drag.
          So we both need to make sure our tires are properly inflated.
          '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
          '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
          '92 Aqua parts Car
          '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
          '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

          "Your God of repentance will not save you.
          Your holy ghost will not save you.
          Your God plutonium will not save you.
          In fact...
          ...You will not be saved!"

          Prince of Darkness -1987

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          • #80
            Not yet, I have been busy with school lately. (In the last bit of an Atmospheric Science degree).

            yes the mirror was from Canadian tire, I will post pics tomorrow......

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            • #81
              Keep in mind that this graph was from a mazda miata......

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              • #82
                This is a great site!

                http://c21.phas.ubc.ca/articles/146

                This is the part about constant cruising speed

                http://c21.phas.ubc.ca/article/energ...speed-cruising

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                • #83
                  Darlo, check out my last few entries, I expect a jump in MPG, or at least I think I'll get one.
                  Aero mods would help so much!
                  A truncated boat tail should be worth something MPG wise on our "brick".
                  Maybe I should consider put an OEM spoiler on it.
                  '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                  '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                  '92 Aqua parts Car
                  '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                  '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                  "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                  Your holy ghost will not save you.
                  Your God plutonium will not save you.
                  In fact...
                  ...You will not be saved!"

                  Prince of Darkness -1987

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Darlo View Post
                    Keep in mind that this graph was from a mazda miata......
                    Yeah and our C sub d has got be a good bit higher than the miata.
                    So would expect the crossover point to be lower for the festiva meaning aero mods become effective at a lower speeds.
                    '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                    '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                    '92 Aqua parts Car
                    '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                    '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                    "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                    Your holy ghost will not save you.
                    Your God plutonium will not save you.
                    In fact...
                    ...You will not be saved!"

                    Prince of Darkness -1987

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                    • #85
                      Well I havent posted up here in a long time but i think 6 fill ups should prove a point that lowering your festy 2 inches or so helps

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                      • #86
                        Plus living at 5200ft and driving to 7400ft at work, all of my driving is in the eastern sierra nevada. Wait till i get stationed at another base where the drives are flat.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by stash2000_2000 View Post
                          Well I havent posted up here in a long time but i think 6 fill ups should prove a point that lowering your festy 2 inches or so helps
                          Uh, I agree it will, but looking at your Fuelly data I can't really tell if there was an increase!
                          Do you have baseline data?

                          I lowered only the front of one of my Festivas via FMS lowering springs and noted an increase in MPG as well.

                          Simple side skirts made from say a sheet of 0.125" thick stiff plastic and as low as you dare let them hang, attached to the body stiffener (that run down both sides of the car) would help too.
                          This would keep air from whirling under the car, and you see and even higher increase.
                          To bad I didn't grab some of this before I left my job.
                          Might still be able to get some though.
                          Have to see.
                          '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                          '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                          '92 Aqua parts Car
                          '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                          '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                          "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                          Your holy ghost will not save you.
                          Your God plutonium will not save you.
                          In fact...
                          ...You will not be saved!"

                          Prince of Darkness -1987

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by stash2000_2000 View Post
                            Plus living at 5200ft and driving to 7400ft at work, all of my driving is in the eastern sierra nevada. Wait till i get stationed at another base where the drives are flat.
                            Ouch!

                            Hopefully you can take advantage of the altitude and use lower octane/cheaper fuel.
                            '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                            '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                            '92 Aqua parts Car
                            '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                            '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                            "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                            Your holy ghost will not save you.
                            Your God plutonium will not save you.
                            In fact...
                            ...You will not be saved!"

                            Prince of Darkness -1987

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Pu241 View Post
                              Uh, I agree it will, but looking at your Fuelly data I can't really tell if there was an increase!
                              Do you have baseline data?

                              I lowered only the front of one of my Festivas via FMS lowering springs and noted an increase in MPG as well.

                              Simple side skirts made from say a sheet of 0.125" thick stiff plastic and as low as you dare let them hang, attached to the body stiffener (that run down both sides of the car) would help too.
                              This would keep air from whirling under the car, and you see and even higher increase.
                              To bad I didn't grab some of this before I left my job.
                              Might still be able to get some though.
                              Have to see.
                              A 4x8 foot sheet of coroplast from a sign shop would do the job well. Some self tapping screws and washers and screw it right down to the subframes like you said.
                              91GL BP/F3A with boost
                              13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by bhazard View Post
                                A 4x8 foot sheet of coroplast from a sign shop would do the job well. Some self tapping screws and washers and screw it right down to the subframes like you said.
                                Not certain the coroplast will be stiff enough, but could have collected political signs, some of then pretty large, for free and overlapped them to get a stiffer skirt.
                                What I like about this is if you go a little too low it will grind it self down to a useful level, or get ripped off, but it's cheap and I really think it would help.

                                I did work at a PVC and PVC/Acrylic alloy sheet extruder and could have gotten whatever thickness I wanted in nearly any color, not that color matters, but too late.
                                Still might get a friend to send me some and see what could be done!
                                '93 Blue 5spd 230K(down for clutch and overall maintanence)
                                '93 White B6 swap thanks to Skeeters Keeper
                                '92 Aqua parts Car
                                '93 Turquoise 5spd 137K
                                '90 White LX Thanks to FB71

                                "Your God of repentance will not save you.
                                Your holy ghost will not save you.
                                Your God plutonium will not save you.
                                In fact...
                                ...You will not be saved!"

                                Prince of Darkness -1987

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