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    I recently pulled the 93 automatic GL out of retirement. The low beams used to flicker occasionally. I unplugged and replugged the "head" fusible link. That fixed it for a while. But occasionally they would flicker. I decided to replace the links with cartridge fuses. I used 30/40/30. They worked. I flashed my high beams at ironically a festiva with no headlights last night. When I did my low beams went out. I stopped unplugged and replugged the fuse. They came on. I stopped for an hour. Then the next time I started it up the low beams would not work. I stopped and got electrical contact cleaner. i removed the fused sprayed it and plugged and unplugged the fuse a few times. The high beams have always worked and are still working. When I leave the lights on, on high beam or low beam, and then unplug and replug the fuse I can hear the relay clicking off and on. I wired one of the bulbs to the battery. Both beams work. Since the high beams work does that indicate my grounds are good? Does the relay engaging indicate a good fuse and relay? Does this whole scenario indicate a bad high beam low beam switch? thanks.
    youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

  • #2
    Mine did the same thing and it turned out to be the high/low beam switch inside of the steering column. (small button pushes in to switch between high/low and that button was worn out.)
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    • #3
      Thanks Jeremy. That's what I was figuring.
      youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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      • #4
        it's that, OR, the relay, although clicking, may have a bad or dirty main contact. the actuator will still make it click, but the current can't pass through the relay. IF the relay always clicks when the lights are switched to the ON position, thats a good indication that the multi finction switch is still good, so suspect the relay.
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        94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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        • #5
          So is it a 2 part relay? The high beams never glitch.
          youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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          • #6
            Originally posted by neanderpaul View Post
            So is it a 2 part relay? The high beams never glitch.
            Hey neanderpaul The artist, formerly known as carbonvmax whats up? I wanna hear you sing "Earth Angel" that was one of my fav vinyl's from my parents collection. Maybe throw in a little "Dub step" for a twist .
            To answer your question.The "Headlamp relay" supplys power for Brite/Low beams. It does this before it even gets to the "Multipositionswitch".
            The "Parking Lamp relay" supplys power for the "Parking lites".It also does this before the "Multipositionswitch".Two seperate relays,with two seperate fuse's supplying them power.
            Me thinks you have a bad "Multipostionswitch".When you switch from Brite too Low.The "Headlamp relay" doesnt even know this happened.As soon as you turn on the headlights, that relay is hot.It stays hot when you go to High Beam. You see what I'm saying? Normally I would suspect the "Fuseable Link Block" because its such a crappy design being exsposed to all the elements. But if it was the problem you would have the same issue with Hi Beams as well.(And you are not ,right?)And I would think your symptom would be compounded because your pulling even more amps with High Beams. The easiest way to narrow it down... Get a "Headlamp Relay" from a parts car,and install it. See if it goes away, I'm betting on the "Multipostionswitchagizzmo" being bad. But I always lose in Las Vegas Peace-
            Last edited by nitrofarm; 12-01-2011, 11:02 PM.
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            • #7
              When I turn highbeams on they Go out. If I flash them they are high.
              First time owner
              89 L carb'd - white / still needs work
              Bought for mpg and only paid $250

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              • #8
                "Earth Angel" is right up my alley! I have looped it before. I'll have to get that one together again and catch it on video. GREAT song!

                I have another high beam low beam switch. But it's from an 88/89 and I believe they are different. Another wire iirc. Of course it has orange type too. Maybe I can pull just the switch part. Thanks!
                youtube.com/neanderpaul 88 festiva LX w/BP G25 MR 5 speed waiting for wiring- 93 Festiva GL auto w/ air, waiting for B6t/G4A-HL - 98 Nissan Quest - 02 Mazda protege 5 wife's DD

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                • #9
                  Try the relay first

                  Originally posted by neanderpaul View Post
                  "Earth Angel" is right up my alley! I have looped it before. I'll have to get that one together again and catch it on video. GREAT song!

                  I have another high beam low beam switch. But it's from an 88/89 and I believe they are different. Another wire iirc. Of course it has orange type too. Maybe I can pull just the switch part. Thanks!
                  Easiest test would be the Relay swap.But dont damage the wires when trying to remove it.That would be something that I've done :nono: Then you end up fixing something else,when your trying to fix something drool
                  Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
                  Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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                  • #10
                    MULTIPOSITIONSWITCH

                    Originally posted by jbuck1975 View Post
                    When I turn highbeams on they Go out. If I flash them they are high.
                    You have a bad "Multipositionswitch".
                    Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
                    Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by neanderpaul View Post
                      "Earth Angel" is right up my alley! I have looped it before. I'll have to get that one together again and catch it on video. GREAT song!

                      I have another high beam low beam switch. But it's from an 88/89 and I believe they are different. Another wire iirc. Of course it has orange type too. Maybe I can pull just the switch part. Thanks!
                      How bout "Hold your head up" by Rod Argent.Thats one of my fav 70's tunes. Its soooo easy to loop that tune.Its like Loopin a Looop
                      Some people like to read fiction,I prefer to read repair manuals. Weird I know-
                      Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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                      • #12
                        Try spraying WD-40 into the switch. While you're at it spray some into the ignition keyhole. Fixded a problem I was having with wipers and lights going out randomly. Problem reoccured last summer and another spray put an end to it.
                        Original owner of silver grey carburetted 1989 Festiva. 105k km as of June 2006. 140k km as of June 2021.

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                        • #13
                          Sometimes my ignition gets stuck and parking brake light stays on and wipers won't work. Turn key back and all is good.

                          EVO deck'd out with Bruce Lee
                          First time owner
                          89 L carb'd - white / still needs work
                          Bought for mpg and only paid $250

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jbuck1975 View Post
                            Sometimes my ignition gets stuck and parking brake light stays on and wipers won't work. Turn key back and all is good.

                            EVO deck'd out with Bruce Lee
                            You should really think about fixing that fella.Its gonna jam up for good at the worst possible time.:nono:It wont jam,right when you get home.It'll jam when you need it the most . . .drool
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                            Henry Ford: "Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently"
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                            • #15
                              I just got my first festy, a teal 92 5spd.

                              Mine is doing the same thing, sort of. At first it was the fusible link, we swapped the link from the EGI and just turned on the lights and they came right on but after turning them off and on again only the high beams worked. I have a fused link fuse holder we made stuck in there now so it is a easily replaced fuse so that is no longer and issue.

                              Then we thought it was the relay but it still clicks on an off when the fuse is attached/detached. We checked the relay while it was working, when the lights randomly shut off while we were testing the wires, one of the always-hot wires went dead, I assume its the one to the low beams as they stopped working.

                              So the fuse is fixed, and the relay is working, last thing to test is the switch.

                              I will try the WD-40, or could I try PB-Blaster, or even just brake cleaner? And post results later.
                              ~Zach

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