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  • #16
    Originally posted by FestYboy View Post
    ^ it can be done...

    i submit to you: Matt Dickmyer 100hp B3 with top end work only (use search function)
    I own tht car now. And its pretty sweet lol.
    93 festy bp swap f series trans.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pu241 View Post
      Bert, I guess the title didn't provide a clue?
      No. I am too impulsive/impetuous at times. Fuel economy largely seems to be taken entirely for granted on this forum and every manner available to take away from that seem to be much more the norm here. How many versions of "I really would like to get 50 mpg and/but it's more important to have 200 hp on tap" have we seen over the years.
      So: My sincere apologies.
      However a 'massaged' 5 speed 3 banger Suzuki transplant driven with a soft foot ought to provide all the fuel economy and aggravation anybody could wish for, along with taller thinner tires, and removing the roof and all of the upper glass.

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      • #18
        Aremco Pyro-Putty: a high temperature ceramic-metallic repair compound used to seal joints and repair defects where resistance to high temperatures is required.

        here is a high temp epoxy that i found. this is the stuff i was interested in using.

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        • #19
          could you show me a link for an aspire roller follower cam and adjustable cam gear. ive been looking all day for both.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bhearts View Post
            could you show me a link for an aspire roller follower cam and adjustable cam gear. ive been looking all day for both.
            I suspect that the easiest way to learn or get one of these (if what you're talking about is OEM) is to find a dead Aspire that still has an engine with cam and head. Guaranteed they will be scarce as hen's teeth in another 10 years.

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            • #21
              remember it is thrown away two dollars per tank full to run high octane verses 87 octane. take my word for it you will be running premium fuel if you're going for high mileage with advance timing high mileage with increase compression hugh mileage with air intake modification or a combination of all of those. I did lots of modifications to my aspire to increase mileage but it only affected the highway. driving in the city I could not tell because of the variation of every single trip I take. if you plan your routes to never use reverse and hardly use the brakes, run stop signs and check the engine off at signals and trains you can see huge gains but your data still willo be tank to tank or week to week
              Last edited by getnpsi; 10-17-2012, 05:04 PM.
              1993 GL 5 speed

              It's a MazdaFordnKia thing, and you will understand!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bert View Post
                No. I am too impulsive/impetuous at times. Fuel economy largely seems to be taken entirely for granted on this forum and every manner available to take away from that seem to be much more the norm here. How many versions of "I really would like to get 50 mpg and/but it's more important to have 200 hp on tap" have we seen over the years.
                So: My sincere apologies.
                However a 'massaged' 5 speed 3 banger Suzuki transplant driven with a soft foot ought to provide all the fuel economy and aggravation anybody could wish for, along with taller thinner tires, and removing the roof and all of the upper glass.
                How about 200hp and 50mpg? HP doesn't have to come at the expense of low mileage. In fact, my B6t car gets 4 mpg better mileage than my bone stock 93 auto Festiva and my bone stock 89 auto Festiva. With a properly tuned turbo engine, 50mpg and 200hp is possible. I have tuned a mk5 vw gti 2.0fsi to over 200hp and slightly over 50mpg. This should be possible with a Festiva.
                Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                • #23
                  Use a hydrogen injection system, with hydrogen made from water. Turn up the power
                  a little and you will get steam with it. Truck air brake antifreeze mixed in is the
                  cheapest alky I find out here..

                  Hydrogen is worse than alcohol for corroding metals, I use poly carbonate and dairy
                  rated hose to deliver the goods to the throttle body. All inexpensive and easy to
                  make parts. Don't believe all the hype if you google this.
                  The benefit comes by adding
                  some hydrogen that burns extremely fast compared to diesel or gasoline. Flame fronts
                  will streak through out the combustion chamber and burn from many points, not just
                  the spark plug , and promotes burning the fuel molecules that the catalyst normally
                  burns. The exhaust runs cooler, the cat does not work anymore and the engine sounds
                  different.
                  So far I have not heard any engines ping while the system is working, this would be because the flame front progressing across the chamber and compressing
                  the end gasses has been eliminated. Quench and the fuel trapped there must be burning too, or the catalyst would still be working.

                  I love projects like yours and will be following!
                  Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Movin View Post
                    Use a hydrogen injection system, with hydrogen made from water. Turn up the power
                    a little and you will get steam with it. Truck air brake antifreeze mixed in is the
                    cheapest alky I find out here..

                    Hydrogen is worse than alcohol for corroding metals, I use poly carbonate and dairy
                    rated hose to deliver the goods to the throttle body. All inexpensive and easy to
                    make parts. Don't believe all the hype if you google this.
                    The benefit comes by adding
                    some hydrogen that burns extremely fast compared to diesel or gasoline. Flame fronts
                    will streak through out the combustion chamber and burn from many points, not just
                    the spark plug , and promotes burning the fuel molecules that the catalyst normally
                    burns. The exhaust runs cooler, the cat does not work anymore and the engine sounds
                    different.
                    So far I have not heard any engines ping while the system is working, this would be because the flame front progressing across the chamber and compressing
                    the end gasses has been eliminated. Quench and the fuel trapped there must be burning too, or the catalyst would still be working.

                    I love projects like yours and will be following!
                    I tried this on my old neon. Didn't make any difference at all that I could tell MPG wise. It seemed to help the bottom end a bit, though. Mine was putting out steam too.
                    Any difference that makes no difference is no difference.

                    Old Blue- New Tricks
                    91 Festiva FSM PDF - Dropbox

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                    • #25
                      Some have to have the o2 sensor black boxed to add about .2 volts to the signal
                      going to the computer. The hydrogen is mixed with 2/3 oxygen and this causes
                      additional fuel to be added on some vehicles.
                      Another way around that is to put the oxygen in the passenger area and inject only
                      Hydrogen. Easy to do.
                      Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig

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                      • #26
                        im still at a loss for what motor to choose. i have the aspire 1.3 now. but that 1.6 sohc everyone talks about really has my ponies rumblin in my mind. while it still have the gas saving abilities, the extra umph up the hills, cant say no to that. what year 1.6l swapps into the aspire the easiest.

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                        • #27
                          88-89
                          Trees aren't kind to me...

                          currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
                          94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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                          • #28
                            since you have an aspire andt have to re harness a lot of the car you might as well get the dual overhead cam 1.5L protege. it is unclear how well you can make a 1.6 engine run with just 1.3 electronics. since most people have festivas on it festy messe board it is a no issue
                            1993 GL 5 speed

                            It's a MazdaFordnKia thing, and you will understand!

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                            • #29
                              Get an early b6 and put all your stuff on it. Megasquirt, and a wideband o2 would be great tuning tools for you. I just did a B6 SOHC, rear turbo for a member here(Kumalaba) and he's getting 38 mpg, while making well over 120hp, which is double stock, plus some.

                              TominMO's car was the same setup, and he recorded 50+ with his, @55mph. Still b6 turbo.

                              Both cars have an FMU, so when not in boost, they are the same as stock.
                              -Greg
                              Euro-bprt...WORLDS FASTEST FESTIVA !!! 11.78@115.9
                              BP, G trans, Megasquirt/ 550cc inj. t3/t3 (tbird) Garrett, REAR TURBO!!!! AND AC!!!!
                              Redneck Engineer
                              FOTY - '09
                              5x Festiva Madness Attendee...FM 3,4,5,6,8
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpCZ7...9Pwqw-oe8s2OYQ
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_eX...9Pwqw-oe8s2OYQ

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                              • #30
                                I averaged 36 MPG when my festy was b6t, had a lot of 40 MPG fills and a best of 47 MPG. Not bad considering the liberal (safe) fuelling of stock electronics.
                                91GL BP/F3A with boost
                                13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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