Reliable bp hp turbo build

[bhearts]

Wow didn't know it was that drastic I know Charlie said 165s were the optimum width tires but will forward mounting really help them with 300+ lbs of torque

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I'd rather have weight on the tires then no weight. Imagine pickup vs fwd Cadillac in the snow

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[Festiver]

A 200hp festiva with the engine moved 2" forward, combined with a well dialed suspension setup, and the car can out pull almost anything on the road and out corner almost anything on a race track. No need for AWD or twin turbos or sequential chargers. All this is just asking for trouble. Build a simple, but we'll designed car and you'll never regret it.

200 hp sounds like a blast but what about 350whp haha something that just rockets on any straight

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[Festiver]

I'd rather have weight on the tires then no weight. Imagine pickup vs fwd Cadillac in the snow

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True true but at that point would i want something like 205s or something wider then pizza cutters haha

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[Team Lightning]

Really? Forward mounting does that much

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YES!! It really does make that much difference.

[Festiver]

YES!! It really does make that much difference.

Haha it's a good thing I'm 1/2 way through forward mounting 1.75" maybe on super high hp festiva I'll go for 2.75-3.5

[Team Lightning]

Be careful about your axle angles. Too much set back is bad on your axles.

[bhearts]

Be careful about your axle angles. Too much set back is bad on your axles.

Too much set back could also cause the cv shafts to pull out of the knuckles cause too short.

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[Advancedynamix]

Wider tires DO NOT mean more driving traction with typical street tires (wrinkle wall slicks or tires designed for racing are different.)
You only need wider tires for cornering stability. 165mm tires hook up better than 205mm tires regardless of how much TQ you have at the wheels. This is because there is more pressure on the contact patch.

A 200hp 200ftlb tq festiva on street tires will be faster than a 350hp festiva unless your extremely talented at driving. A festiva can only use around 200ft.lbs of TQ on commonly available street tires before traction is lost. Wheelspin is slow. I STRONGLY suggest starting off with around 180-200hp. The car will be relatively easy to drive and still feel manageable, but will pull alongside supercars and sportbikes.
Building a car to look good on a dyno and spin the tires when you stomp the gas is pointless IMHO. If you want something that performs well and is fun to drive, don't let HP numbers be your goal. Trust me, passing a Ferrari on a race track is more fun than putting 350whp down on a dyno day. A new VW with a tune will crank out 350hp, so your not going to impress anyone. Lol. But, rip past that 350hp GTI on a straight stretch and watch the jaws drop. You won't be able to do that with a poorly built car.

[fastivaB6TG25MR]

my festy only made 256whp and 232wtq and ran a 12.2@113. it was 100% stock engine with 14psi on 91 octane and megasquirt. you dont need alot of power if you dont add alot of weight. i cant imagine how terrible traction is in a 300+whp festy, i could brake boost in 3rd gear at 60mph and do rolling smoke shows with 205/50/15 tires

[bhearts]

my festy only made 256whp and 232wtq and ran a 12.2@113. it was 100% stock engine with 14psi on 91 octane and megasquirt. you dont need alot of power if you dont add alot of weight. i cant imagine how terrible traction is in a 300+whp festy, i could brake boost in 3rd gear at 60mph and do rolling smoke shows with 205/50/15 tires

That's not right.

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[Festiver]

Oh yeah no I have no intention of doing this soon I'm gonna run like 5 psi in a stock bp+T for a while this is just kinda a feeler post for a build plan haha but ok so 165 is about maximum for acceleration I was thinking at higher speed like highway accelerating maybe you could put 350 to the ground (keep in mind I'm just a kid who reads about builds alot not much actual experience) but I gotta be honest if if I have the ability to get wheelspin just from accelerating at 60+ thatd make me smile haha not a constant thing just the occasional little high-speed burnout haha (like I said still a kid) but it's just neat to think about but the sounds a 82 mm turbo will make at 20-25 psi now that's beautiful and I'm loving bhearts idea of a small Eaton supercharger + the 82mm turbo (I know very excessive but hey this is a no expense spared mental build)

Wider tires DO NOT mean more driving traction with typical street tires (wrinkle wall slicks or tires designed for racing are different.)
You only need wider tires for cornering stability. 165mm tires hook up better than 205mm tires regardless of how much TQ you have at the wheels. This is because there is more pressure on the contact patch.

A 200hp 200ftlb tq festiva on street tires will be faster than a 350hp festiva unless your extremely talented at driving. A festiva can only use around 200ft.lbs of TQ on commonly available street tires before traction is lost. Wheelspin is slow. I STRONGLY suggest starting off with around 180-200hp. The car will be relatively easy to drive and still feel manageable, but will pull alongside supercars and sportbikes.
Building a car to look good on a dyno and spin the tires when you stomp the gas is pointless IMHO. If you want something that performs well and is fun to drive, don't let HP numbers be your goal. Trust me, passing a Ferrari on a race track is more fun than putting 350whp down on a dyno day. A new VW with a tune will crank out 350hp, so your not going to impress anyone. Lol. But, rip past that 350hp GTI on a straight stretch and watch the jaws drop. You won't be able to do that with a poorly built car.

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[Festiver]

That's not right.

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Not right? Morally or factually?

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[bhearts]

Not right? Morally or factually?

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Nobody should be able to do rolling smoke shows in a festiva in 3rd gear

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[Festiver]

Nobody should be able to do rolling smoke shows in a festiva in 3rd gear

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Flyin4stroke has a video of his haha

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[Flyin4stroke]

Rolling on a Porsche and the guys face as you walk his dog. Priceless. I even gave him the hit.