Painting my car

[Team Lightning]

Lots of stuff about not using the samples to make weapons and other stuff on the form

[Rick the Quick]

Similar to the questions the refugees are asked when they are seeking asylum. lol.

[Sid_RallyX_82]

If there were ever a time to mention that the conversation went off track, I think it might be now

[Sid_RallyX_82]

I'm getting ready to insulate the cabin. The way I understand it,
Start with a sound dampener, like Mass Loaded Vinyl or Butyl Rubber (preferably non-asphaltic):

http://www.dynamat.com/automotive-and-transportation/automotive-restoration/superlite/

or

https://www.b-quiet.com/products/b-quiet-ultimate-50sqft

Then apply thermal insulation, such as a fiber material or Closed Cell Foam

http://www.dynamat.com/automotive-and-transportation/automotive-restoration/dynaliner/

What thicknesses would you guys recommend for roof, doors, quarter panels, firewall, and floor?
Outer skin area ~100ft^2?

[william]

https://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com

All you need to know about sound deading
I've never ordered from this company but there site has taught me a lot about sound deadener

[Sid_RallyX_82]

https://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
All you need to know about sound deading
I've never ordered from this company but there site has taught me a lot about sound deadener

Yep, saw that one. Just wondering about thickness and area

[bravekozak]

I removed my door windows and slid down as large an unbroken sheet of butyl as possible.
I did the same for my ceiling, and all the exterior panels in my car.
My car is so quiet now. The doors shut like a caddy.
Use only butyl seconds from eBay.
When you walk around the car and tap your knuckles on the body, the only hollow sound is on the two front fenders and hood.

I have a hood insert that I need to install.
Everything else is deadened.

They say that the Chrysler 300 is the quietest vehicle on the road.
Well, my Festiva will give it a run for the money.

[Rick the Quick]

Hey Brave, I like the sound (no pun intended) of butyl seconds off eBay. I will go on there tonight and look for some. What do you estimate the total weight of what went on your car? I clicked on some links to sound deadening companies and couldn't find a complete package for a Festiva so I looked at packages for Civics and saw weights in the 100 lb neighborhood. That's a little more weight than I would want to add to my cars.

[Sid_RallyX_82]

Bought 50ft^2 of KillMat for ~$60. Gonna put that in soon. Right now I'm swapping the rear and quarter glass from my first car into the new one because they have the stickers I like already on them and I need the horsepower.

Is there a good way to remove paint from a color-matched bumpercover? I want them to be black on my white car.

[Sid_RallyX_82]

For anyone wondering, 50ft^2 of Kilmat 50Mil weighs(with paper backing and the thin cardboard box it came in) about 16#

[blueoval]

just white is the whitest pure white it's even whiter than oxford white

[bravekozak]

Is there a good way to remove paint from a color-matched bumpercover? I want them to be black on my white car.

I worked for six months at a major automotive bumper painting plant.
They painted directly over the original paint with a completely different color.
They used electrostatic guns to ensure paint wrap.
They also used special acid-catalyzed heat cure paints that required an oven bake in order to make the special polymers crosslink.
The only way you could tell it was re-painted was to get in an accident with abrasion.
I have seen some bumpers painted over a dozen times.
We put microtomed cross sections under a microscope.

[Sid_RallyX_82]

I worked for six months at a major automotive bumper painting plant.
They painted directly over the original paint with a completely different color.
They used electrostatic guns to ensure paint wrap.
They also used special acid-catalyzed heat cure paints that required an oven bake in order to make the special polymers crosslink.
The only way you could tell it was re-painted was to get in an accident with abrasion.
I have seen some bumpers painted over a dozen times.
We put microtomed cross sections under a microscope.

I want to remove the paint so I can have the textured black bumpercovers; not smooth, painted-black bumpercovers

[Sid_RallyX_82]

just white is the whitest pure white it's even whiter than oxford white

I ended up painting it Ford Racing White (Poor upload quality, hard to see the flake)