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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    Originally posted by blueoval View Post
    just white is the whitest pure white it's even whiter than oxford white
    I ended up painting it Ford Racing White (Poor upload quality, hard to see the flake)

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    Originally posted by bravekozak View Post
    I worked for six months at a major automotive bumper painting plant.
    They painted directly over the original paint with a completely different color.
    They used electrostatic guns to ensure paint wrap.
    They also used special acid-catalyzed heat cure paints that required an oven bake in order to make the special polymers crosslink.
    The only way you could tell it was re-painted was to get in an accident with abrasion.
    I have seen some bumpers painted over a dozen times.
    We put microtomed cross sections under a microscope.
    I want to remove the paint so I can have the textured black bumpercovers; not smooth, painted-black bumpercovers

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  • bravekozak
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    Originally posted by Sid_RallyX_82 View Post
    Is there a good way to remove paint from a color-matched bumpercover? I want them to be black on my white car.
    I worked for six months at a major automotive bumper painting plant.
    They painted directly over the original paint with a completely different color.
    They used electrostatic guns to ensure paint wrap.
    They also used special acid-catalyzed heat cure paints that required an oven bake in order to make the special polymers crosslink.
    The only way you could tell it was re-painted was to get in an accident with abrasion.
    I have seen some bumpers painted over a dozen times.
    We put microtomed cross sections under a microscope.
    Last edited by bravekozak; 10-05-2018, 06:17 PM.

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  • blueoval
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    just white is the whitest pure white it's even whiter than oxford white

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    For anyone wondering, 50ft^2 of Kilmat 50Mil weighs(with paper backing and the thin cardboard box it came in) about 16#

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    Bought 50ft^2 of KillMat for ~$60. Gonna put that in soon. Right now I'm swapping the rear and quarter glass from my first car into the new one because they have the stickers I like already on them and I need the horsepower.

    Is there a good way to remove paint from a color-matched bumpercover? I want them to be black on my white car.

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  • Rick the Quick
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    Hey Brave, I like the sound (no pun intended) of butyl seconds off eBay. I will go on there tonight and look for some. What do you estimate the total weight of what went on your car? I clicked on some links to sound deadening companies and couldn't find a complete package for a Festiva so I looked at packages for Civics and saw weights in the 100 lb neighborhood. That's a little more weight than I would want to add to my cars.

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  • bravekozak
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    I removed my door windows and slid down as large an unbroken sheet of butyl as possible.
    I did the same for my ceiling, and all the exterior panels in my car.
    My car is so quiet now. The doors shut like a caddy.
    Use only butyl seconds from eBay.
    When you walk around the car and tap your knuckles on the body, the only hollow sound is on the two front fenders and hood.

    I have a hood insert that I need to install.
    Everything else is deadened.

    They say that the Chrysler 300 is the quietest vehicle on the road.
    Well, my Festiva will give it a run for the money.
    Last edited by bravekozak; 05-27-2018, 06:42 PM.

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    Originally posted by william View Post
    https://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
    All you need to know about sound deading
    I've never ordered from this company but there site has taught me a lot about sound deadener
    Yep, saw that one. Just wondering about thickness and area

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  • william
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    All you need to know about sound deading
    I've never ordered from this company but there site has taught me a lot about sound deadener

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    I'm getting ready to insulate the cabin. The way I understand it,
    Start with a sound dampener, like Mass Loaded Vinyl or Butyl Rubber (preferably non-asphaltic):
    The most recognized brand in automotive soundproofing and heat control in the world. Learn more about reducing unwanted noise and vibration.

    or
    B-Quiet Ultimate Sound Deadener helps break up unwanted stress-causing sound waves and vibrations to improve the acoustics of your vehicle. Order it now!


    Then apply thermal insulation, such as a fiber material or Closed Cell Foam
    The most recognized brand in automotive soundproofing and heat control in the world. Learn more about reducing unwanted noise and vibration.


    What thicknesses would you guys recommend for roof, doors, quarter panels, firewall, and floor?
    Outer skin area ~100ft^2?

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  • Sid_RallyX_82
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    If there were ever a time to mention that the conversation went off track, I think it might be now

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  • Rick the Quick
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    Similar to the questions the refugees are asked when they are seeking asylum. lol.

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  • Team Lightning
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    Lots of stuff about not using the samples to make weapons and other stuff on the form

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  • bravekozak
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    Sorry, no I did not. I just thought that since they made it in aerosol, and the whole Hyundai building at the 2018 winter Olympics was painted with it, then no problem. Ooops.
    Besides, who wants to drive around with all the lights on all of the time, day or night.

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