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    So we take aspire drums and cut the unneeded part of them to turn them into hubs



    take a 1/4 inch steel plate and some mazda mx-3 rear brake calipers and rotors
    (that probably means a v6 mx-3), bolt the caliper to the plate through some sleeves with some 50mm class 10.9 bolts


    paint calipers yellow


    And we are ready to roll!

    Escort GT/Protege LX calipers seems to be compatible in terms of how they mount, but use slightly different pads.

    I wanted aspire drums for the aspire bolt pattern anyway - but see how close the holes are to the edge of the drum (and the drum side is dictated by the brake rotor diameter) - seems like festiva drums would not work.

    No E-Brake in this design - I live in a flat state and my e-brake is broken for a while already anyway

    PS: wonder if anyone would be interested to buy a bolt-on kit consisting of these brackets, sleeves and hubs? But that would probably be $199 shipped, and you will still need calipers and rotors.
    Last edited by russian; 07-21-2012, 08:39 PM.
    rusEfi - DIY ECU
    93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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    How much offset would you say that adds?
    Current cars:

    1993 Ford Festiva 5-Speed - Festiclese III - Cousin of the Banhammer - "The Jalopnik Car"
    1984 Toyota Cressida - 2JZGE Swap, Turbocharged.
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    • #3
      On the one hand, you add a 1/4 inch plate between the beam and the axle stub/spindle. On the other hand, you remove drum disk back plate, which is maybe 1/8 or a bit less around the axle stub.
      rusEfi - DIY ECU
      93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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      • #4
        Very creative!
        90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
        09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TominMO View Post
          Very creative!
          We both know this was done before
          rusEfi - DIY ECU
          93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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          • #6
            If anyone's interested I know a guy who's got a couple sets of old/used aspire drums that could be cut up for this. Of course, he wouldn't be responsible for what you did with them. Feel free to pm me.
            2008 Kia Rio- new beater
            1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
            1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
            1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
            1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
            1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
            1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
            1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



            "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zoom zoom View Post
              If anyone's interested I know a guy who's got a couple sets of old/used aspire drums that could be cut up for this. Of course, he wouldn't be responsible for what you did with them. Feel free to pm me.
              Can you tell me if the VW Golf brakes will work? They have 4x100 and e-brake built in.
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              • #8
                Picks of the welded assembly?
                Going old school...

                89L Carby FIDO, previously owned by FestivaFred

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DriverOne View Post
                  Can you tell me if the VW Golf brakes will work? They have 4x100 and e-brake built in.
                  I would be more inclined to do this type of brake conversion as I live in an area made of hills, and I'm a teenage boy so I need my oversteer bar
                  Kellen
                  Owner of:
                  1991 Red Festiva L, 5 speed (Swagger Wagon)
                  In progress:
                  BP+G25MR swap, Kia rio axles hopefully.

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                  • #10
                    If I understand right discs grab better than drums. Now that you've figured out a cheap and ingenious way of putting them in the back have you had to play with the brake proportioning valves at all?
                    Neat idea you have there.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bert View Post
                      If I understand right discs grab better than drums. Now that you've figured out a cheap and ingenious way of putting them in the back have you had to play with the brake proportioning valves at all?
                      Neat idea you have there.
                      As I said, not my idea - this was done by Stevo back in 2004.

                      As for proportion - good point, but I comfort myself by the fact that fronts are also not stock. Also I am going to use sporty pads on the front with regular pads on the back.
                      rusEfi - DIY ECU
                      93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by russian View Post
                        On the one hand, you add a 1/4 inch plate between the beam and the axle stub/spindle. On the other hand, you remove drum disk back plate, which is maybe 1/8 or a bit less around the axle stub.
                        Ops, I have forgotten about the brake rotor - it also adds some offset since it's between the drum and the wheel.
                        rusEfi - DIY ECU
                        93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by russian View Post
                          We both know this was done before
                          If by "both" you mean "you", then you are correct! I have not seen this before.
                          90 Festy (Larry)--B6M (Matt D. modified B6 head), header, 5-speed, Capri XR2 front brakes, many other little mods
                          09 Kia Rondo--a Festy on steroids!

                          You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality--Ayn Rand

                          Disaster preparedness

                          Tragedy and Hope.....Infowars.com.....The Drudge Report.....Founding Fathers.info

                          Think for yourself.....question all authority.....re-evaluate everything you think you know. Red-pill yourself!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DriverOne View Post
                            Can you tell me if the VW Golf brakes will work? They have 4x100 and e-brake built in.
                            I really don't know, are they hollowed inside with brake shoes that expand out on the inside of the rotor like Chrysler minivan rear disk brakes? If they are I would think the whole rear axel setup would need swapped, but thereto again, I don't know.
                            2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                            1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                            1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                            1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                            1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                            1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                            1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                            1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                            "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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                            • #15
                              People on here may already know this, but Capri rear discs fit right on Festiva stub axes, but then you are left with the 4x4.5" B/C. I still think there are lots of great wheel choices in that pattern though (may favorite O.Z. wheels are cheap in that pattern). I was just going to use that setup with some wilwood 2 piston calipers and a hydro hand brake, but I've had great luck with my drums.

                              Great idea with the machined drum, I bet the Miata rear brakes would work for this too, and they are available in 2 piece rotors from wilwood.
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