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  • #16
    Adjustable hydraulic valves that you plumb into the rear brake line are available from Jegs or Summit Racing so you can set the rears the way you want them. I have one on my Mustang. I don't want the rears to lock up on a hard slowdown [car is very light in rear] because it spins me out quick.

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    • #17
      I would like to see the finished product without the wheel.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
        People on here may already know this, but Capri rear discs fit right on Festiva stub axes, but then you are left with the 4x4.5" B/C. I still think there are lots of great wheel choices in that pattern though (may favorite O.Z. wheels are cheap in that pattern). I was just going to use that setup with some wilwood 2 piston calipers and a hydro hand brake, but I've had great luck with my drums.

        Great idea with the machined drum, I bet the Miata rear brakes would work for this too, and they are available in 2 piece rotors from wilwood.
        What year Capri??

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        • #19
          Originally posted by denguy View Post
          I would like to see the finished product without the wheel.
          here is a pic of last test fitting if that's what you ask for
          rusEfi - DIY ECU
          93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
            ...I've had great luck with my drums...
            True, nothing wrong with the drums. One of the reasons for me was the ease of inspecting & swapping pads - all that business with dusty drums is just plain sad...
            rusEfi - DIY ECU
            93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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            • #21
              Protege LX/4wd Protege/escort GT rear calipers have e-brake actuators built in, all you have to do is run cables.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ratorrey View Post
                What year Capri??
                90-94 Capri or XR2. Most likely 323 gt as well from 85-88 ( that's not a for sure thing). I have swapped my Festiva drums for Capri disks and they fit the stub axle fine. You'd need a backing plate/caliper adapter like what Russian has made, and you'd have to figure out an e-brake cable solution(or hydro e-brake)

                Originally posted by russian View Post
                True, nothing wrong with the drums. One of the reasons for me was the ease of inspecting & swapping pads - all that business with dusty drums is just plain sad...
                I hear ya there. I use the castle nut setup on mine because I do tear them down before every race. On my new drums I cut back the outer lip to help with dust evacuation. I've thought about drilling the backing plates for ventilation as well. I'll eventually make my own disk setup, but I'll run aluminum hubs with motorcycle rotors and wilwood2 piston calipers. The goal with this is for ease of maintenance and weight savings.
                Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                  ..I have swapped my Festiva drums for Capri disks and they fit the stub axle fine...

                  ...I'll eventually make my own disk setup...
                  It took me only 7 minutes to digest this

                  That's a great hint, I know a place where they have a base Capri - will check if these disks work with my plates!
                  rusEfi - DIY ECU
                  93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                  • #24
                    Yeah, they should. I used XR2 disks (still have them kickin' around in the garage) but I believe that N/A capri rotors are the same and I don't see why the spindles would be any different. The bearings are different outer diameters (found this out the hard way when I tried to instal capri rear wheel bearings in my festiva drums, nope!) but the I.D.s of the bearing are the same and the width of the hub is the same. I would have done this to my car, but the disk setup is heavier than the drums and the e-brake thing caused me to lose interest.

                    Someone mentioned VW calipers. I'm sure you could retrofit VW parts to the Festiva, and the Mk4 and later rear calipers (cable e-brake is incorporated) are very lightweight aluminum. However, it's the same amount of work and roughly the same money (if you scan ebay once a week for good used calipers) to use Wilwood calipers and a hydro e-brake. This setup requires that you reroute the rear brake line a little (most of you should replace your rusty lines anyway) and instal a Hydro hand brake lever. But, think of never having sticky e-brake cables ever again, and having an e-brake that is rally worthy? The only reason I haven't done this mod yet is because my car is an AZ car with perfect drum brakes that work awesome, e-brake and all, and the Festiva drums are the lightest drums I've ever seen on a passenger vehicle (some ATV's have bigger drum brakes than these, lol). Yet they will still slide the back around in a hurry when trail braking or e-brake turning (even with sticky r-compuond rubber). The Festiva drums (other than filling up with brake dust like Russian mentioned) are nearly flawless when in perfect working order. I just changed out the shoes that were half worn when I bought my car, and they still had life left in them. They withstood 2000 plus track miles and 20K miles of my street driving (I drive like an A hole ). Impressive!
                    Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by russian View Post
                      It took me only 7 minutes to digest this
                      I wish I could be easier to understand, I have this problem a lot. If I can do anything different to be easier to understand please let me know. Kinda new at the forum thing.

                      Pictures are worth a thousand words. here you can see the sealing ridge is cut off my drum. These drums have also been converted to 4x100.
                      Last edited by Advancedynamix; 07-23-2012, 09:01 PM.
                      Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                        I wish I could be easier to understand, I have this problem a lot. If I can do anything different to be easier to understand please let me know. Kinda new at the forum thing.
                        Nevermind. Es porque no hablo Ingles, solo hablo Ruso
                        rusEfi - DIY ECU
                        93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by russian View Post
                          Nevermind. Es porque no hablo Ingles, solo hablo Ruso
                          !Tu es loco Ruso
                          Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                            Yeah, they should. I used XR2 disks (still have them kickin' around in the garage) but I believe that N/A capri rotors are the same and I don't see why the spindles would be any different. The bearings are different outer diameters (found this out the hard way when I tried to instal capri rear wheel bearings in my festiva drums, nope!) but the I.D.s of the bearing are the same...
                            Seems like I.D. of the bearings is not the same, Capri disk would not work on Festiva axle stub with stock bearings



                            On the picture base capri outer bearing is on the left and aspire outer bearing on the right.



                            Not the best picture - capri outer bearing on aspire axle stub. See how the bearing sits on the stub on the left and the gap on the right? Aspire and Festiva use same wheel bearings.

                            I thing the difference in I.D. is about 1/8 inch for outer bearing and maybe 1/16 inch for the inner bearing. I am sure there are exact specs for all these bearings somewhere, so if anyone would find non-stock bearings which would match Festiva/Aspire axle stub and capri rear disk, I can make brackets. I guess spacers for the bearings are not really an option - have to be really nice steel in such spacers.

                            BTW capri and mx-3 use same rear calipers & pads
                            rusEfi - DIY ECU
                            93 EFI: tach cluster, aspire mirrors & spindles. ZX2 master cylinder, BP+G25 swap with a door hinge, rio struts. 205/50r15, 140mph speedometer,rear disk brakes, mini cooper + subaru front brakes rear sway bar

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                            • #29
                              That's weird, I put it together and I thought it all fit perfectly. I'm going to dig those parts out tonight. Could have sworn. Hmmm. Sorry about that. I bet there is a bearing that will fit that application though.
                              Last edited by Advancedynamix; 07-24-2012, 05:34 PM.
                              Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                              • #30
                                I have confirmed that indeed, I was full of $#!+. Must have had a few too many hard ciders the day I put those together and thought they fit perfectly. Lol. With non stock bearings, they may fit. I'll double check the next time I say something fits.
                                Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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