Yeah by the build quality I was sold on as soon as I started reading the threads. If I ever did go turbo on a high compression motor I would
run it at 1psi which would be atmospheric pressure which in turn would just promote %100 filling of cylinders. Which wouldn't be boost but it would increase volumetric efficiency to %100 without worrying about detonation and such. Which would be awesome, it would be the best of both worlds.
And quarter mile times are not an accurate gauge of performance. To get %100 of performance on the quarter mile you would need to gear your transmission to hit fifth gear redline right as you crossed the line to maximise your power and acceleration. If its geared wrong and you hit redline sooner your losing accelleration towards the end. And if you can't reach your top gear by the end your not getting the full potential of each gear ,not.to.mention having to.control wheelspin on takeoffs. If I wanted a gauge of performance I would take it on a road coarse and do lap times. Also anyone can drive in a straight line. But how does it put power down in turns and coming out of corners, and I bet downshifting would be great with 11:1 compression to help you shed speed. I always thought drag racing was only for people who couldn't actually drive. If you ever want to see who the best drivers in the world are I would suggest watching a formula 1 race. They are the fastest things there are to drive, even faster than the moto gp motorcycles. And the skill to actually drive one is ridiculous. But you wouldn't see them on the dragstrip because their power is designed for high speed and they use aerodynamics to further increase traction so they push its limits higher and faster. And these things performance couldn't be gauged at such a small distance going in a straight line. I'm not trying to badmouth, these are just my opinions. The definition of racing is maintaining momentum, going as fast as you can for as long as you can. Adding turns to the mix adds to the challenge of the vehicle and the driver and would be a more accurate gauge of performance in a real world application I feel. But yet again I'm not trying to badmouth or start anything these are just my opinions.
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Originally posted by nitrofarm View PostWow awesome thread guys really want to see how these na 1.3 can perform in the 1/4 mile. Hope you guys can get them to a track and show us some 1/4 mile times. Dyno's tell the truth about the engine but 1/4 mile times really solidify the numbers for the whole car build. Its just such a shame that mazda put such a restrictive intake on these engines. KEEP us posted! banana time
That said heck yeah lets see the builds and the results!
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Wow awesome thread guys really want to see how these na 1.3 can perform in the 1/4 mile. Hope you guys can get them to a track and show us some 1/4 mile times. Dyno's are great but 1/4 mile times really solidify the numbers. Its just such a shame that mazda put such a restrictive intake on these engines. KEEP us posted! banana timeLast edited by nitrofarm; 01-23-2013, 02:13 AM.
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Re: My n/a super b3 build
Yeah that's why I'm going this route. Matt did run his 8 psi with 11:1 on pump gas, but yes I know it is pushing the limit that's why I'm doing n/a plus the cam he ground for me is built for n/a... Plus it will be cool to have a smoking fast b3 n/a
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Re: My n/a super b3 build
Yeah he got frustrated when people kept talking crap and didn't believe it was possible so he stop posting
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If your running 11:1 compression I wouldn't boost at all. 11:1 is the threshhold for high octane pump gas. If your going for n/a build I'd keep it n/a. Plus all motor builds are awesome and reliable. I've always wanted to do a n/a build to at least see what these little motors are capable of. Everyone goes turbo but a quality n/a build is unique.
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Pics and vid are still up IIRC if you search mattdickmeyer in the username section of the advanced search. Using "Threads started by" option.
EDIT: Vid is just idle, and set to private now.
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Re: My n/a super b3 build
The only pic is on his Facebook page he has a pic of it on the dyno and says what it put out..
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is there ANY vids of that car floating around? i would LOVE to see it... heck even pics would be awesome...
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Re: My n/a super b3 build
Well I'm not gonna be doing a turbo for now... But we will see what I get out of it n/a
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266hp @ 8psi on a b3???? wtf
i feel like a fool only making 194hp at 9psinow im thinking about going back to the b3 lol....
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Re: My n/a super b3 build
Yes especially with 11:1 compression... Thats why I'm interested... I don't know if and when I will boost but considering it, just don't know if it will be too much.. Lol did you see what Matt got with his @ 8 psi... Its insane
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I found out through looking at the b3 head and b6 head and that they will bolt up to either block and will work in theory so I took a small chance and ordered the b6 head studs. To my surprise, the worked perfect. The front two studs are almost too long and I think this is due to the b6 head being slightly thicker where the head of the bolt ( or nut, with studs) rests on the head. All of the nuts torqued down fine with no issues so if you plan on boosting at any time I would highly recommend them.
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