Lucifer gets new Turbo setup!

[Advancedynamix]

Yeah, the dips smoothed out with the smaller methanol injector. After that the TQ curve was pretty flat. Not bad for an engine management system from the mid 80s. Lol.
Mentals car has a Miata intake manifold, which is a much better design than the us b6t manifold. Your JDM manifold will be more like his, especially if you run a Miata TB.
The 2554r will definitely be a better setup than the vj14. What I'm trying to say is that drivers should spend that extra 900 bucks on r compound tires and track days, instead of big turbos. A stock b6t in a Festiva will exploit the grip of street tires quickly, so big turbo b6t isn't going to make much of a difference to lap times compared to sticky tires and experience. Case in point, my lap times in Pedro are lower on R compound rubber than they are in Tweak with street rubber. Pedro is 70hp shy of Tweak, but that extra HP doesn't make up for grip.

[Festiver]

Yeah, the dips smoothed out with the smaller methanol injector. After that the TQ curve was pretty flat. Not bad for an engine management system from the mid 80s. Lol.
Mentals car has a Miata intake manifold, which is a much better design than the us b6t manifold. Your JDM manifold will be more like his, especially if you run a Miata TB.
The 2554r will definitely be a better setup than the vj14. What I'm trying to say is that drivers should spend that extra 900 bucks on r compound tires and track days, instead of big turbos. A stock b6t in a Festiva will exploit the grip of street tires quickly, so big turbo b6t isn't going to make much of a difference to lap times compared to sticky tires and experience. Case in point, my lap times in Pedro are lower on R compound rubber than they are in Tweak with street rubber. Pedro is 70hp shy of Tweak, but that extra HP doesn't make up for grip.

I don't mean to thread jack this sorta pertains but how quickly do you burn through R compounds would a larger turbo be a longer lasting 900? It wouldnt be the most effective 900 but wouldnt it last longer

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[Advancedynamix]

900 would get you roughly 4 days of fun. That's 275 for for a set of 185 60 13 Federal 595 Evo tires, and 4 track days at 150 a day. But, at the end of that 4 days, you'll have a real idea of what fast really means. Street racing or fast road driving is nowhere near the same concept of speed as hot lapping a road coarse on sticky tires. I haven't tested the Federal 595 Evo yet, but they will be going on my race wheels next. At less than half the price of my A048r tires, they would allow me to run more track days. Fast cars are cars that turn reliable lap times, not cars with a sweet parts list that sit in the garage. A purpose built b6t or Bp engine in a well prepped Festiva would be awesome, but without driving experience and the right tires, it would be a waste. It's easier to learn how to drive a car with less HP and more grip than it is to learn to drive a car with more HP and less grip. Not to mention, more HP and less grip will get you into trouble really quick. I found that out at my first track day in Tweak. I overheated the street tires several times and flung the car off the track into a cloud of dust. I nearly flipped the car on one of those off track adventures. That's when I decided to put the car on race rubber. The r compound rubber really transformed the car and allowed me to learn what the chassis needed to go really fast.

[festyfreak39]

900 would get you roughly 4 days of fun. That's 275 for for a set of 185 60 13 Federal 595 Evo tires, and 4 track days at 150 a day. But, at the end of that 4 days, you'll have a real idea of what fast really means. Street racing or fast road driving is nowhere near the same concept of speed as hot lapping a road coarse on sticky tires. I haven't tested the Federal 595 Evo yet, but they will be going on my race wheels next. At less than half the price of my A048r tires, they would allow me to run more track days. Fast cars are cars that turn reliable lap times, not cars with a sweet parts list that sit in the garage. A purpose built b6t or Bp engine in a well prepped Festiva would be awesome, but without driving experience and the right tires, it would be a waste. It's easier to learn how to drive a car with less HP and more grip than it is to learn to drive a car with more HP and less grip. Not to mention, more HP and less grip will get you into trouble really quick. I found that out at my first track day in Tweak. I overheated the street tires several times and flung the car off the track into a cloud of dust. I nearly flipped the car on one of those off track adventures. That's when I decided to put the car on race rubber. The r compound rubber really transformed the car and allowed me to learn what the chassis needed to go really fast.

i'm struggling with which tires to run right now. I have at least 4 sets of takeoff 13x8" goodyear eagle slicks from a star mazda. I think this may be too much tire for the car. Ended up being just the right amounf of tire for the miata turbo though...I also have 2-3 sets of toyo RA1's that were takeoff from my miata which i could use..... but that was not enough tire for the turbo miata.

I've never heard of those federal evo tires? where can you buy them? for 275 its really not a a huge amount of capital outlay to test.

[mikemounlio]

EBay has them

[mikemounlio]

What was it about tweak that made it such a track monster?

[Festiver]

900 would get you roughly 4 days of fun. That's 275 for for a set of 185 60 13 Federal 595 Evo tires, and 4 track days at 150 a day. But, at the end of that 4 days, you'll have a real idea of what fast really means. Street racing or fast road driving is nowhere near the same concept of speed as hot lapping a road coarse on sticky tires. I haven't tested the Federal 595 Evo yet, but they will be going on my race wheels next. At less than half the price of my A048r tires, they would allow me to run more track days. Fast cars are cars that turn reliable lap times, not cars with a sweet parts list that sit in the garage. A purpose built b6t or Bp engine in a well prepped Festiva would be awesome, but without driving experience and the right tires, it would be a waste. It's easier to learn how to drive a car with less HP and more grip than it is to learn to drive a car with more HP and less grip. Not to mention, more HP and less grip will get you into trouble really quick. I found that out at my first track day in Tweak. I overheated the street tires several times and flung the car off the track into a cloud of dust. I nearly flipped the car on one of those off track adventures. That's when I decided to put the car on race rubber. The r compound rubber really transformed the car and allowed me to learn what the chassis needed to go really fast.

Hmm good point just a curiosity question thank you

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[Advancedynamix]

i'm struggling with which tires to run right now. I have at least 4 sets of takeoff 13x8" goodyear eagle slicks from a star mazda. I think this may be too much tire for the car. Ended up being just the right amounf of tire for the miata turbo though...I also have 2-3 sets of toyo RA1's that were takeoff from my miata which i could use..... but that was not enough tire for the turbo miata.

I've never heard of those federal evo tires? where can you buy them? for 275 its really not a a huge amount of capital outlay to test.

Bias ply slicks (I think those Goodyear's are bias ply, aren't they?) are a tricky setup. Don't run them on tracks with rapid elevation changes or tracks where you abuse heavy bumper curbing. They are bouncy and get really sketchy on the limit with much track contour change. Also, keep a really close eye on your pressures as the bias ply tires do weird things if the pressures are not consistent from side to side. The RA1 may work good, but obviously will need flares and you may have trouble building heat in the rear tires.
The Federals are very new to the scene here in north America. I'm excited to try them. I have a set of the regular 595 tires, but the Evo is the track tire. These were developed for drifting. Festivas are really hard on front tires, as I'm sure you know. Adding HP makes that problem wayyyyy worse. Cheap, sticky and resiiliant to abuse is what we need. 185mm tires seem to work best because they aren't too wide to build heat in the rear and they still hold up in the front and they sorta fit under the stock fenders. I use 7" wide wheels, because 8" wide doesn't fit well under the stock fenders with Aspire knuckles. That may not be the case if you used Festiva knuckles.
Like Mike said, eBay has the 595Evo

[mikemounlio]

I cant wait to try them out as well.

[Advancedynamix]

What was it about tweak that made it such a track monster?

A lot of reasons, but they can all be summed up by simply saying it's a Festiva.
Tweak is a very simple car to build. Stock b6t with a fairly well tuned water meth system, well tuned suspension and seats that hold you in place. The chassis is unmodified except for the front lower radiator support and rolled/stretched fenders.
The b6t in a Festiva with dialed in suspension is nothing short of miraculous. This combination makes track driving easy and fun.
I've driven faster cars with more HP and more grip than a Festiva, but these cars were all much much more expensive than a Festiva with an engine swap, sticky tires and good shocks.
My Porsche is about the same power to weight ratio as Tweak, it has 1300 dollars worth of R compound rubber under it and 6000 dollars in suspension/chassis tuning. It is known as one of the best handling cars in street car history by many many track addicts, yet it's 3 seconds a lap off Tweaks pace. I have more experience behind the wheel of Porsche race cars, than in FWD cars and I'm hooked on the Festiva because it's, without a doubt, superior to my overpriced German sports car. All the shady lines that I wish I could take in my Porsche are easily swallowed up in Tweak or Pedro. Add that to how fun the car is, how practical it is and how awesome the Festiva community is and it's an easy car to fall in love with.

[Dragonhealer]

What was it about tweak that made it such a track monster?

I find it a hard question to answer. Tweek was a fabulous learing experience , putting the lie to much of what is supposed even in pro racing about front drive cars. Mazda did a great job, but Charlie really refined it. Tweek is "monstrous" in that Charlie has further refined the suspension for our cars to way beyond that which Tweek wears. Pedro, for example is locked on a rail compared to Tweek, under extreme conditions (I have observed these two back to back for many laps. You can't slap the grin off my face ).
what remains is to deal with the extreme outter front tire wear, which may be handled with more negative camber gain in cornering.
Mostly though, having spent many hours at the track, I think it is driver skill, in this, Carlie has no lack. Give him a well set up car, and he is very fast indeed.
More power than a given chassis can put down is wasted.

[mikemounlio]

Tonight i will be pulling the transmission off the motor of Lucifer. I may not pull it apart till Sunday but i at least want to see how the clutch is looking. I put an ebay 6 puk clutch on it. I hope that clutch is not what messed the trans up.

[mikemounlio]

If this guy buys my buggy tonight i will have plenty of room and cahs to finish up my garage and then get back to lucifer. I still have not had time to look over the trans to see what went wrong. The engine and trans has been on the floor since that friday that it happened.

My buggy is very likely to be sold tonight. Which will free up my entire back half of my garage. With a few 2x4 and some plywood i will have my new shelfs built in the back of the garage and be ready to tackle anything lucifer can toss my way!

[mikemounlio]

The new car is paid for. The spare trans that comes with the new car will go onto the 1.6 from lucifer. I might just have a couple friends over one day and swap all the parts over to lucifer. I mean Lucifer is already taken apart. Might as well do it now. IDK yet tho. Still working on all the details. Still gotta wait to see the new car and figure it all out. But soon ill have both the cars & have them both on the road.

[Advancedynamix]

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